Advantage of factory twin exhaust?

The place for all technical car discussions. If you haven't already, read our Disclaimer first!

Moderator: The Mod Squad

Advantage of factory twin exhaust?

Postby icy » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:38 am

Can someone plz explain whats the advantage of having twin exhaust ie. ae101 and some late model hondas.

thx in advance :D
you will never learn how to swear properly untill you learn how to drive
User avatar
icy
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 296
Joined: Fri May 16, 2003 11:10 pm
Location: AUCKLAND

Postby Bling » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:52 am

looks phat.
User avatar
Bling
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 15990
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:02 pm
Location: Quake City

Postby barryogen » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:29 am

on the AE101 it means that you can have a fairly restrictive muffler on the end meaning that it would be quiet until you give it hell, and it opens the flap/valve to the other muffler to increase the flow...

that and it looks phat...
User avatar
barryogen
2ZZ Guru in training
 
Posts: 2692
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:38 am
Location: Dunedin

Postby ~SlideWays~ » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:22 am

barryogen wrote:on the AE101 it means that you can have a fairly restrictive muffler on the end meaning that it would be quiet until you give it hell, and it opens the flap/valve to the other muffler to increase the flow...

that and it looks phat...


Really? I never notice an exhaust note difference in the gf's car. But with the car idling on a cold morning you can see fumes/steam coming from only one of the silencers. I just assumed that the flow just went through the easiest path...

Having a look under it and the Y-piece is a bit hideous! :lol: You sure there's a flappy jobbie?
User avatar
~SlideWays~
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 4974
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2002 3:02 am
Location: Wellington

Postby rolla_fxgt » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:21 am

~SlideWays~ wrote:
barryogen wrote:on the AE101 it means that you can have a fairly restrictive muffler on the end meaning that it would be quiet until you give it hell, and it opens the flap/valve to the other muffler to increase the flow...

that and it looks phat...


Really? I never notice an exhaust note difference in the gf's car. But with the car idling on a cold morning you can see fumes/steam coming from only one of the silencers. I just assumed that the flow just went through the easiest path...

Having a look under it and the Y-piece is a bit hideous! :lol: You sure there's a flappy jobbie?


Yup if you get the revs just right & then suddenly back off you can hear it closing, it kinda sounds like a poping sound.
I guess it all works on flow & at a certain resistance it opens the flap & goes out both
Ending up with spare parts in assembling things since 1983
User avatar
rolla_fxgt
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1641
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:54 pm
Location: Rotorua

Postby barryogen » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:29 am

~SlideWays~ wrote:Having a look under it and the Y-piece is a bit hideous! :lol: You sure there's a flappy jobbie?


I believe that the flappy bit is spring loaded and is inside the secondary muffler.

Revhead can probably explain it better.
User avatar
barryogen
2ZZ Guru in training
 
Posts: 2692
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:38 am
Location: Dunedin

Postby icy » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:30 pm

Wow, you do learn things when asking the right question, very interesting to know, I have always thought its more of a look thing but when late model accords, golf R32 and Mazda 6 starts introducing them on their cars I start to wonder whats the reason.

My car (ae101 levin) does sound quiet when its idling, got over the loud exhaust thing, I am more appreciated with the sound of the engine more now.
you will never learn how to swear properly untill you learn how to drive
User avatar
icy
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 296
Joined: Fri May 16, 2003 11:10 pm
Location: AUCKLAND

Postby Pelo » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:35 pm

twin mufflers seem to be the trend at the mo. It used to be sports and supercars only now all the family cars have them. Why, it is just extra weight to look good???
Aurion camry 6 commodore accord legacy bmws and many more...
User avatar
Pelo
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 631
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:01 pm
Location: Auckland

Postby Quirky » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:20 pm

it just looks phat...
Hello There
Quirky
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 482
Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:48 pm
Location: Townsville, Australia

Postby sergei » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:21 pm

I have not seen any flaps in AE101 exhaust, is it inside of the muffler?
User avatar
sergei
Mad Russian
 
Posts: 8406
Joined: Wed May 15, 2002 12:06 pm
Location: North Shore

Postby touge rolla » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:24 pm

well they just make sense in the case of a longitudinal "V" configured engine. Incase of MR2 i guess it's just to make it look good (and damn it works go symmetry!)
User avatar
touge rolla
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 781
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:32 pm
Location: Wellington

Postby barryogen » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:38 pm

sergei wrote:I have not seen any flaps in AE101 exhaust, is it inside of the muffler?


barryogen wrote:I believe that the flappy bit is spring loaded and is inside the secondary muffler.

Revhead can probably explain it better.
User avatar
barryogen
2ZZ Guru in training
 
Posts: 2692
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:38 am
Location: Dunedin

Postby neo » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:58 pm

You sure about the flappy thing..

I do know the left one has a smaller diameter pipe though the middle of the muffler than the right, but by no means are they restrictive at all as the pipes are perforated and go 'straight' through the mufflers.

.. and its because they look good, and this way you can double the amount of baffling :)
User avatar
neo
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1965
Joined: Tue May 21, 2002 1:04 am
Location: Crazy Car Motorsport

Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:18 pm

i used to think there was possibly a valve in there
but a few ppl have cut the pipe off and havnt seen a flap

but they definitly do favour one side when idling/slow running
i would be interesed to see inside a muffler, as theres def something doing it!
Being the subject of E-whinges since 2004 8)

http://www.centralmotorsport.org.nz/home

Image
User avatar
Mr Revhead
SECURITY!
 
Posts: 24635
Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 pm
Location: Nelson

Postby sergei » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:22 pm

Yeah, that was my point, I have not seen a flap inside the AE101 muffler. I also know someone who used smaller AE101 muffler on his AE92 and it was definitely running normal.
User avatar
sergei
Mad Russian
 
Posts: 8406
Joined: Wed May 15, 2002 12:06 pm
Location: North Shore

Postby AceSniper » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:34 pm

are they straight through? I didnt think they were... way to quiet for that.
From what iv read on jap sites the ae111 muffler has a flat init that alows more flow dono if thats true
User avatar
AceSniper
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2002
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2002 10:55 am
Location: Hamilton

Postby neo » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:57 am

My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I remember poking a wire through the right muffler at least end - end.

They are straight through, but the dia of each pipe isnt massive... not compared to the factory 2 1/4 - 2 1/2 main section and center muffler and cat.
User avatar
neo
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1965
Joined: Tue May 21, 2002 1:04 am
Location: Crazy Car Motorsport


Return to Tech Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests