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Need some help with valuation of factory Ae101 FXGT wheels..

Postby Willdat? » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:49 pm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =137759125

factory ae101 fxgt / gtz levin mag wheels, 15inch 4x100 stud pattern, good condition, no tyres.

wheels are the same as what is in the picture, thay are not the actual items, but are identical.

Please read the questions and answers for this auction below.
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Any curbing? And are the centre caps the same colour as the wheels (to go on new corolla wagon so I want them to be quite tidy) :) Thanks, Will, If so I'm hitting buy now! posted by: usefulstuff (56 ) 1:49 pm, Fri 25 Jan
no curbing, really good cond, yes centre caps are identical colour, thanks 6:21 pm, Fri 25 Jan



You'll see my questions at the bottom of the auction, well it turns out that the centre caps are missing a lot of paint, one wheel has a 10cm curb gouge. So not up to the task at all. I paid $190+80 for shipping. What do you think would be a fair price? (that I will be able to sell them on trademe for, as they are not going near my car!)

Any feedback would be appreciated, AND offers of TIDY 14 or 15" factory wheels suitable for a BZ Touring.

Cheers, Will
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Postby strx7 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:15 pm

those mags are known for being very soft, doesn't take much to bend them, or much of a curb knock to take chunks out of them. to be honest due to that I personally wouldn't say they are worth much. To some odd toyota nutta, a mint set would probably be of some 'value'.
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Postby MR2SIK » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:20 pm

report him for misrepresentation of goods? try and get a refund?
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Postby Willdat? » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:20 pm

mmmm I was figuring around the $50 mark....as they're not very tidy I think they're not going to be worth anything more?
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Postby Willdat? » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:23 pm

The big shipping component makes the refund aspect a bit of a pain...even if he refunds me the full purchase price I end up $160 down...yeah reporting him to trademe maybe worth while
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Postby crazed_silvertop » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:17 pm

you'd probably get more if you just took them to a scrap dealer.
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Postby gurutasker » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:35 pm

Are the mags themselves actually bent?
I'm on the lookout for some cheap 15" mags and may be heading nearby your way next month...
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Postby jonno* » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:40 pm

Hey on this note, sorry to hijack your thread bro, but how much are original aw11 mags worth? Don't see any on trademe, i have 8 of them which have been sitting in a shed for about 10 years so they aren't badly gouged or anything.
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Postby tsoob » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:25 pm

yeah $50 bucks mabey 100 if they are in good nick i buy a lot of secondhand wheels and they aren't really worth much.
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Postby touge rolla » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:46 pm

You haven't given him the negative feedback from hell yet!
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Postby Willdat? » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:18 am

The mags appear to not be bent, but to be honest I haven't had them on a wheel balancing machine. You'd be welcome to check them out when you're up this way (I'm getting married in the weekend so in no real hurry to be selling them!)
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Postby Willdat? » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:11 pm

> >> > Hi Dave,
> >> >
> >> > I've paid $270, for a set of wheels that I honestly think will
> >> > struggle to sell for $70 as they are. I'm a member of Toyspeed (toyota
> >> > owners club of nz) and I should be able to get a fair indication of
> >> > their value on there if you would like.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, Will

> > Here's the thread
> >
> > viewtopic.php?p=633955#633955
> >
> > feel free to post if you feel I have been unfair in my description.

> wel ive got to congratulate you on the way you have handled this, not
> waiting to see if this can be sorted out before you paint a rather biased
> description of myself, and i have to admit, i am rather less inclined to
> help you out, when i did feel for your situation.
> i am unsure now what to do as you have completely changed my opinion of
> yourself.
> if you are so sure these wheels are of such little value, and so common,
> then i am unsure why you had to go out of area to buy,
> there is an old saying my father once said, buyer beware, and has caught
> many people out, you asked one question yes... but you did take my answer in
> a literal context, they are in good condition, far better than most nearly
> 20year old wheels i know of, and yes the centre caps are the same colour as
> there wheels, and i dont recall you asking anything about the paint
> condition on the centre caps.
>
> you may realise that im not completely in the wrong, you never asked
> specific enough questions and never asked for photos of the actual wheels, i
> dont like seeing people hard done by and was quite prepared to help you sort
> something out, but i will inform you quite frankly you have made it very
> difficult to feel any sympathy anymore.
>
> and i may just point out that this is not my problem entirely as the wheels
> were not mine but was a friends, and i was not the person that answered your
> question, i have tried to sort something for you and i will be the one out
> of pocket, from now on i will not be allowing people to use my trademe
> account, only because i am now aware some people that use trademe are
> arrogant and do not believe they could ever be in the wrong.
>
> let me know if you can even mildly see my point, as i have not written off
> the idea of helping you out... just yet.
>
> yours sincerely dave

Hi Dave,

In a previous auction someone had asked for photos and it had seemed
like it could have been a hassle.
So I thought, judging from the standard of workmanship on your rwd WRX
that I could trust your opinion, and that by describing my situation,
and asking what I think are pretty specific questions, you would be
able to tell me if the wheels were right for my application.
I'm sorry that you have been offended, but I'm giving you the chance
to share your side of the story.
They are in good condition for a wheel that had been on the car since
1993ish (when the AE101 FXGT came out), but I assumed from your
description that they were what I was looking for, a wheel that hadn't
actually seen much used, and may have been switched for an aftermarket
one early in its life. (you must know how many near new 1995ish WRX
wheels are available for very little.)
I haven't complained to trademe, nor placed negative feedback, nor
asked for the refund of $140 (the price difference between what I paid
and others have said they are worth) so I think your claim or
arrogance is unjustified.

Thanks, Will

In your first line you mention, it seemed... so you asumed. theres your
first mistake.
In your secound line you "thought"... i spot a trend here.
Further down ou say "pretty specific".... so your admiting there not
specific questions.
Then you mention that you are giving me a chance to voice my side of the
story, which in auctual fact your forcing me to fight an uphill battle form
your personal opinion.
Before you state facts make sure they are correct. ae101 fxgts were in fact
produced before 1993, and your toyspeed friends will verify this. so you are
not doing your research properly... just like the wheels.
And near new wheels the same as what i have on my wrx are worth approx
300-350 so i had reason to believe the fx gt wheels were a reasonable price.
I am aware there is no complaint to trade me.... yet, but you have voiced a
rather biased opinion on your toyspeed forum, so how is this much different.
I am aware of what you have and havent offered me but you have to admit the
negative feedback thing works both ways.

your welcome, dave.
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Postby Willdat? » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:13 pm

Flag buying used car parts on trademe...
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Postby rolla_fxgt » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:12 pm

Yeah report the dude, he sold goods that he misrepresented.
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Postby THA SHZ » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:21 pm

Hmm the whole advert was misleading right from the start including stating the alloys were identical to the ones in the photo :? agan i deal in second hand rims sometimes and you would expect to pay $150 - $200 for mint condition alloys , this would even be backed up by most toyota wreckers , i would ask for a refund of some sorts to show good faith on his behalf 8)
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Postby B1NZ » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:42 pm

Give the guy negative feedback, He blatantly lied to you so he deserves it!
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Postby Alex B » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:22 pm

the guys a cock and you got ripped, not a whole lot you can really do about it.
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Postby neo » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:55 pm

$200 is fair for the wheels, but a 100mm curb mark (it it just a scratch or a kerb / dented alloy?) when they said they were fine is not ok.

I brought 5 sets of wheels last year mostly off trademe, I always ask in the comments, are they 100% true and straight, no kerbing etc., if they are not will you pay to get them repaired, the last wheel cost me $90 to get fixed ...

All the sellers agreeded, I ended up with 2sets having a crack in one and another 2 buckled wheels, and thus arranged compensation with the sellers.

But this guys seems like a bit of a ... <cough> .. so yeah -ve feedback, but the wheels are fine - they just dont look 100%, they do the job, life will continue.
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Postby bluemaumau » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:00 pm

i love those factory rims, looking to buy a pair too use for day to day missions. save the RA1s and rp01s for action 8)
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