New Exhaust Laws??

[RevolutionStarlet89]

i Want to whinge!

ARRRGGHH!!!

So i was reading the letter in the paper written by Harry Duynhoven about the new Exhaust laws that come into effect on June 1st. From my understanding if my exhaust is over 95Db/a then i need to get it redone to comply with new rules, which i have no problem with at all! in fact great! What i do have a problem with is that if i go an get my exhaust certified it seemingly has no effect at all, in fact a waste of money, because if a cop deems your car to be too loud with or without a cert he can send you for a new test which will cost me another $150!!

It also seems weird to me that there is only 1 certifier in Chch, which seems rather odd, so for every boy racer the police send to (the place i wont name out of fairness) to get an exhaust test again he gets another $150 bucks..... Government kick backs mayb??? A bit more inland revenue collecting maybe??

I would have thourght that having a cert for the exhaust would have made it legal for me to use on the road... I from my limited knowledge of certs, i dont here any cases of police sending people with new engines or what not in their car in to get them checked to see if they comply... So why is it diff with exhaust??

Maybe we shold all sell our beloved cars and all buy motor bikes, which when floored would be a hell of alot louder than a car.

This shit pisses me off :)

[solitaire]

Yeah a bit rough having to get it checked... although if you have the certification sticker on the exhaust it should be ok i would of thought? I dont think a majority of cops out there would give you a hard time unless you had an attitude/was causing a disturbance.

Bit rough having only one guy in christchurch... having said that we only have two in auckland... he will be a busy boy i suspect.

On a separate note: A lot of people harp on about revenue collecting and this is not the case... it just so happens that the thing nearest and dearest to our hearts that the police can take away is money... if we break the law there has to be consequences etc so that why we get speeding tickets. I would not be surprised if the police had quotas but that will have more to do with measuring the individual policeman's performance (i.e. is he slacking off) than revenue collecting... at the end of the day if you dont want a ticket dont break the law

[cat007]

oh cool. Another exhaust thread hehe

I don't know about cert's and exhausts. I've got a cert for my suspension, engine swap and gearbox - but not for the exhaust....dam

Another reason to buy a bus....

[Warren]

A LVV cert (chassis, engine, suspension mods etc etc) is different to an exhaust cert right?

I still have the standard exhaust and muffler on my car, so I got nothing to worry about haha.

[Mr.Phreak]

Once you've had your exhaust certified, they'll put a ID sticker on the system and give you a detailed report and as long as it hasn't been modified you should be fine.

If you either fail the attitude test or get a cop having a bad day, it may cost you a WOF inspection at the most which should give you all the documentation that you need to argue the infringement or any future ones.

Unless they change things again......


End of the day, if you're modifying cars, you gotta pay to play.

[RevolutionStarlet89]

the thing that gets me is, for all the people who are willing to comply with the rules and make sure their car is under 95db/a dont get anything out of abidig by the rules, infact they spend extra money to meet the "law" but still arnt given a break, and can be subjected to a noise test by any anal cop who has a vendetta against "boy racers". So whats the point??


Whats next??? No mags bigger then 15"? No lowered springs??
Geeeeesssss Maaaaannnn

[Mr.Phreak]

I wouldn't call my car quiet and I'm yet to have a problem

[frost]

[quote=
Whats next??? No mags bigger then 15"? No lowered springs??
Geeeeesssss Maaaaannnn[/quote]

thats whats happened in hongkong, no mags bar factory fitted, no engine mods or suspension and dont even think about touching the exhaust,

there is two places in chch for checks and on road can do them too i think,
i think the "lets all buy harley Davidson's with nickel head engines" is a good idea,
the law is crap because there are plenty of ford's and holdens that exceed 95dcb factory, maybe thats the next law change 95dcb limit unless you drive a v8

[the fallen303]

silly question, but how would they measure a twin exhaust setup that exits on two sides of the vehicle just in front of the rear wheels? would still be rearward of the last passenger entrance (it's a two door, so behind the door opening) so would still be legal on that side of things, but it would mean that you could run smaller pipes and better mufflers, effectively having twice the quieting effect, but still have plenty of flow through. could they only measure one side? or would they still measure from behind the vehicle?

[d1 mule]

yeah i got pulled up in nelson at new years because a passenger didnt have their seat belt on, while he was writing out the fine a super loud harly drove past and i questioned him on how it was legal, his response was "its fitted like that from the factory so its allowed" my first thought then was kit car with no exhaust, just to proove a point. i mean in theory it came from the factory like that...

[Lloyd]

Kit cars have a whole different set of rules to comply with

[Truenotch]

Kit car with no exhaust and no springs?

[cat007]

silly question, but how would they measure a twin exhaust setup that exits on two sides of the vehicle just in front of the rear wheels? would still be rearward of the last passenger entrance (it's a two door, so behind the door opening) so would still be legal on that side of things, but it would mean that you could run smaller pipes and better mufflers, effectively having twice the quieting effect, but still have plenty of flow through. could they only measure one side? or would they still measure from behind the vehicle?

Wont be allowed as the boot is an "opening" I thought??

[the fallen303]

good point. pretty sure last time i looked into it it was still ok though *shrugs*

[deaf_rattle]

good point. pretty sure last time i looked into it it was still ok though *shrugs*

ewan got his mk2 certed like how you were describing.. it must be ok..

[RevolutionStarlet89]

Yeh i would have thourght that if you got it certed it would be ok, but from what i read and how i took it, it sounded like if you have a cert but a cop thinks its still to loud you hafta get it checked... And they cant/dont do this with anything else that needs a cert, engines etc etc

Only way your really going to win is to stay standard:( or buy a harley!!

[grantourismo]

i got a quiet loud exhaust, this is the one i use

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 3.htm?p=18

i dont even use the silencer , yes it is so cheeaap the exhause is loud as well but never got pull over , if i saw a police patrol the first thing i do is slow down . Beside I drive a corona 96 it is not really attention maker

[Leon]

We did a quick dba test on all the cars that ran at our autocross today, one car (Group A Legacy rally car) pipped 95dba. It's phuckin loud folks. Most of the cars, including some fairly modded vehicles were in the 80's.

[FST4RD]

But different exhaust notes read different levels on the same DB meter though, like a car with a tinnier exhaust like a 20v that might sound louder to the ear but something with a much deeper exhaust that sounds quieter will come up louder on the DB meter.
That's a problem I believe...

[grantourismo]

Government kick backs mayb??? A bit more inland revenue collecting maybe??

the ird employee is one of the lowest work efficiency people in nz as well... takes them ages to send my income statement, over a month for a letter