Kid clocked at 178km/h.. What do we really do?

[cat007]

Raise the Age you can Drive to 18 and get a full license at 20 it will help.

+1

Until this country has a decent public transport system that's not the greatest idea.

At the moment, I would be out of 2 jobs if that happened, out of an income. This could lead to me starting to do 'other things' (stealing cars, theft, drugs etc etc) to get a good income.

And saying that these people should take racing off the street is a rather silly thing to say too.

eg:

Why the hell would I go and PAY someone to go racing which I may only get 4 or 5 races/laps in that day, whip-d-do Its a hell of a lot easier to go on he street and go for a thrash, what does that cost?? $20 for fuel maybe, but thats about it. (thats a small example, not taking into account the danger factor etc etc)

Now dont get me wrong, I'm fully against speeders and reckless driving, but theres more behind it that just a bunch of fuktards street racing.

Give me a FREE 24h venue and I know where I'll be heading......

My 2c

ok - no. nothing is free. you pay like $35 and you get to drag race all day or all night at meremere - safe, fun, and more competitive as you dont have $&#$% trying to cut you off and/or swerve in traffic to race you.

Or better yet, save up a massive $100 (oh no break the bank) and go to a track day at puke and the like. Much more entertaining than drags

[o0hoe rolla0o]

Raise the Age you can Drive to 18 and get a full license at 20 it will help.

+1

Until this country has a decent public transport system that's not the greatest idea.

At the moment, I would be out of 2 jobs if that happened, out of an income. This could lead to me starting to do 'other things' (stealing cars, theft, drugs etc etc) to get a good income.

And saying that these people should take racing off the street is a rather silly thing to say too.

eg:

Why the hell would I go and PAY someone to go racing which I may only get 4 or 5 races/laps in that day, whip-d-do Its a hell of a lot easier to go on he street and go for a thrash, what does that cost?? $20 for fuel maybe, but thats about it. (thats a small example, not taking into account the danger factor etc etc)

Now dont get me wrong, I'm fully against speeders and reckless driving, but theres more behind it that just a bunch of fuktards street racing.

Give me a FREE 24h venue and I know where I'll be heading......

My 2c

.... theres no such thing as free, if you enjoy driveing as much as you claim to $80 or whatever it is these days is a small charge for a whole lot of fun safe controled driveing

[xsspeed]

Raise the Age you can Drive to 18 and get a full license at 20 it will help.

+1

Until this country has a decent public transport system that's not the greatest idea.

At the moment, I would be out of 2 jobs if that happened, out of an income. This could lead to me starting to do 'other things' (stealing cars, theft, drugs etc etc) to get a good income.

And saying that these people should take racing off the street is a rather silly thing to say too.

eg:

Why the hell would I go and PAY someone to go racing which I may only get 4 or 5 races/laps in that day, whip-d-do Its a hell of a lot easier to go on he street and go for a thrash, what does that cost?? $20 for fuel maybe, but thats about it. (thats a small example, not taking into account the danger factor etc etc)

Now dont get me wrong, I'm fully against speeders and reckless driving, but theres more behind it that just a bunch of fuktards street racing.

Give me a FREE 24h venue and I know where I'll be heading......

My 2c

ok - no. nothing is free. you pay like $35 and you get to drag race all day or all night at meremere - safe, fun, and more competitive as you dont have $&#$% trying to cut you off and/or swerve in traffic to race you.

Or better yet, save up a massive $100 (oh no break the bank) and go to a track day at puke and the like. Much more entertaining than drags

free 24hr venue, are you smoking reefer?
a) where would the cash come from?
b) who would manage it for free?
c) there would be some serious safety issues/policing required to ensure safe cars only have access?
d) whose gunna foot the bill when someone gets killed?

as said above nothing is free,

if driving is your thing, then you have to pay the money to do it.
if drinking is your thing, then you have to pay money to do it.
(btw i dont mean you personally, i mean it in a general sense)

kind of a major factor in street racing is the consequences it has for others, ie the danger, so i really dont think you can ignore it!

[o0hoe rolla0o]

as good old chooper reid would say .... harden the f%$# up holden_fan2005

[Si]

Oh yea...plus finance companies cant say no to a 19yo buying a brand new RX7 thats been modded to tits and back, as that becomes discrimanation (sp)

What the $&#$% are you smoking? They can do a risk assesment based on any number of factors, like age, sex and income and decide if its worth while to give this person finance.

It would be like saying that car insurance being cheaper for females is discrimination.

[RunningRich]

what the hell cops are more worried about getting their Quota they don’t care about real police work.

[/end anti-police rant]

Have to say, we have got exactly the namby pamby state that the majority of kiwi's voted in (more than once). Don't blame the Police for not showing up, they are responding where they can. When I reported a burgler on the premises one night in South Auckland I had four cars outside within 5 minutes. Brillant response. If they are attending every break in and stolen stereo that occurs they would never get to where they are really needed.

I believe that any car stereo stolen from a car should not be attended. You own stupid fault for leaving it in the car to be taken.

I believe that any stolen car that had no alarm, immobiliser or steering lock should not be attended. Protect yourself.

I believe that any vehicle that runs from the police should be stopped using a high power rifle bullet to the driver. Stop them before they injure innocents.

All drink drivers should be sentenced to home arrest outside of work times monitored with a GPS ankle band. Anyone who leaves their home will be imprisioned, no question asked.

NZ prisons will have no TV or heating. Convicts will work HARD. They will not want to go back. They will be educated as well as punished. Once out they will work for the government making roads and stuff so they are busy.

NZ is too soft and our youths are bought up knowing they are untouchable. That needs to change.

[pc]

If the offending 19yo had an almost free local 24 hour venue to go to and blow off some steam, would he have gone?

The answer is unknown. It hasn't been tried.
Yet many people say they would use a venue if it was available.

[WCKWGN]

many of the ones doing the illegal racing are in cars in the middle of the night with sub standard modifications, no rego or wofs and if they went to a track to get scruitinered they wouldnt be allowed on the track...

dude in the car going that fast in suburbs is a tosser and really needs to go to prison to be someones girlfriend for six months and hopefully that is enough of a deterant to him...

[holden_fan2005]

If the offending 19yo had an almost free local 24 hour venue to go to and blow off some steam, would he have gone?

The answer is unknown. It hasn't been tried.
Yet many people say they would use a venue if it was available.

That is my entire point.

My post wasn't the way I personally think, I'm a drag racing photographer and I may be looking to race so sort of 7/8 second dragster next season. I was trying to point out the way many of the people I know who do mental things on the streets think.

And for the free 24h venue, I'm saying that It would be used, and I would guess that some of our 'boyracers' would use it too. I dont give a rats where the money would come from or all of the technical issues, thats not my problem. If a venue was there, it would get used!!!

kind of a major factor in street racing is the consequences it has for others, ie the danger, so i really dont think you can ignore it!

Wow, theres that venue thing again.

drag race all day or all night at meremere

Again, totally untrue. Lets say you have a 10 second car, have 6 races during the night, Hmmmm 60 seconds worth or racing. A night out on the 'streets' - 2+ hours. And you wonder why these 'boy racers' never go to the strip.

Track days are a good idea, I would love em, all I need now is a car with more than 3 cylinders and 1000cc's

[pjay]

+1 for holdenfan2005's point of view, i agree entirely.

Build the venue, and lets see who uses it..

[Bling]

why would the type of people that rip up our streets bother going to a legit place? that takes out half the point which seems to be to piss off the police and everyone else on the streets.

a venue would be a big waste of money and i'd rather that money was spent crushing street racers / excessively dangerous drivers) cars on the spot. How much steam do you think the guy would risk blowing off if he knew his car would be crushed if he was caught "blowing off steam"?

Again, totally untrue. Lets say you have a 10 second car, have 6 races during the night, Hmmmm 60 seconds worth or racing. A night out on the 'streets' - 2+ hours. And you wonder why these 'boy racers' never go to the strip.

hahaha, and how valid do you think your point is? How many 10 sec cars owned by "boy racers" do you know of? sweet fk all I bet

they never go to the strip because their cars don't have wof or reg as mentioned above... and the ones that do, have the mentality of a chimpanzee (no disrespect to chimps tho!!)

[Dell'Orto]

Build a venue and you'll still get illegals and people doing silly shit on the streets.

[AE86less]

Agreed. I don't street race but I do do dumb stuff, even without really trying.

"How much gas can I give it round that corner?


..... $%^#, not that much then "

[xsspeed]

yeah like i said i wasnt tryna get at you, (this always happens in a forum discussion doesnt it)

i guess part of my point was that a venue would at tyhe end of the day, should it be built would funded (partly/fully/?) by taxpayers.

and i could do with having my taxes spent on something i will actually use. as if it were to be a free venue, entry-wise and allow all vehicles entry regardless of condition etc i will sure as heck not go there. i mean if unpoliced whats gunna stop some guy i beat in a drag race pulling out a knofe and stabbing me, ok a little extreme, let say he bashes my car in anger then.

in a perfect world sure it works, but it wouldnt take long until low lifes hang out there, crime rate increases, someone gets hurt etc etc.
and then what? we the taxpayers by of the government, or some private benefactor has provided a location where people may be getting hurt.

and at the end of the day, some little tosser might get seriously f-ed up, now i dont wish that on anyone, but then say said tosser then claims compensation, whose gunna pay for that ACC(taxpayers)? the property owner (Government?/taxpayers)

i really think the only way that a location can be provided is for there to be some sort of organisation and scrutineering. otherwise your gunna get, drags going one way and the other, major crashes, dodgy vehicles, drink driving/racing, crime etc.
and hey i dont say that stuff doesnt happen anyway in our communities, i hjust cant see that its that great a benefit providing a location for it to occur, and some of it legally (ie drags/burnouts/whatever)

[Norty]

Wow we are taxed to hell already.

I used to be for a place for people to go and do that kinda of stuff now i am not for it, why because it does cost someone, you wanna race that is what racing track is for and sorry but $100 bucks is nothing i piss 100 bucks in my RX7 which i pay cheap insurance for BTW , i dont want my 39% tax i pay going on a place for idiots it wont solve anything, the fact people have no wof no reg, take the car if it is on the street, if you cant afford that then you should not be driving your car on the Road.

and it has been tried, a place to people to go and do stuff does not stop them from being dickheads on the road, i had a place when i was young didn't stop me one bit, the little head controls the big head, and as soon as you see that hot chick walking down the road you got a thing for, you just got to do something dumb to get her attention you know what i am talking about, its the whole look at me i am doing a burnout on the road and i do give a f**k i am badass. You all know what i am saying, girls can always make guys do anything.. without even asking. Little Head controls the BIG HEAD!

If you wanna go fast, do burnouts, eat chilled monkey brains fine, do it out in the middle of nowhere late at night or early morning where you can only hurt yourself and those that come with you. like i said people do stupid things and thats the way its going to be while humans drive cars, wont matter if there is a place to go, wont matter if there are hard core laws it will still happen, humans will be humans and when your young you wanna be anti establishment simple.

[solitaire]

If the offending 19yo had an almost free local 24 hour venue to go to and blow off some steam, would he have gone?

The answer is unknown. It hasn't been tried.
Yet many people say they would use a venue if it was available.

Argh!

You are trying to work around the problem... that little sh!t broke the law... who gives a fly!ng f!_!ck if he wanted to blow off steam? I spend 2 horus in traffic each day.... do you not think that i need to blow off steam?

This country & culture needs to focus on people taking responsibility rather than dreaming up excuses for why someone did something... Should we give rapists an unending supply of women to shag so they dont need to rape? bit extreme but you get my point... the problem is the kid not taking responsibility for himself, not the pressence of heated water vapour.

its the law... if you break the law you get your kneecaps shattered, period.

[Lanius]

what the hell cops are more worried about getting their Quota they don’t care about real police work.

[/end anti-police rant]

Have to say, we have got exactly the namby pamby state that the majority of kiwi's voted in (more than once). Don't blame the Police for not showing up, they are responding where they can. When I reported a burgler on the premises one night in South Auckland I had four cars outside within 5 minutes. Brillant response. If they are attending every break in and stolen stereo that occurs they would never get to where they are really needed.

I believe that any car stereo stolen from a car should not be attended. You own stupid fault for leaving it in the car to be taken.

I believe that any stolen car that had no alarm, immobiliser or steering lock should not be attended. Protect yourself.

I believe that any vehicle that runs from the police should be stopped using a high power rifle bullet to the driver. Stop them before they injure innocents.

All drink drivers should be sentenced to home arrest outside of work times monitored with a GPS ankle band. Anyone who leaves their home will be imprisioned, no question asked.

NZ prisons will have no TV or heating. Convicts will work HARD. They will not want to go back. They will be educated as well as punished. Once out they will work for the government making roads and stuff so they are busy.

NZ is too soft and our youths are bought up knowing they are untouchable. That needs to change.

Couldn't agree more. And Norty, you're right on track too (no pun intended ).

[grantourismo]

yes yes yes

nz is only soft to serious offenders

but never soft on minor offender or good people driving 10 km/h more than they should, of course i respect policemen but the system is screwed
hahahaha

i acutually had a chance to speak to an officer he even think the system is only punishing good guys more ....

[xsspeed]

yes yes yes

nz is only soft to serious offenders

but never soft on minor offender or good people driving 10 km/h more than they should, of course i respect policemen but the system is screwed
hahahaha

i acutually had a chance to speak to an officer he even think the system is only punishing good guys more ....

just like the anti smacking bill, its only gunna get the good parents really not the ones that beat their kids to shit, cos theyll do it despite the law

[Mr.Phreak]

they never go to the strip because their cars don't have wof or reg as mentioned above... and the ones that do, have the mentality of a chimpanzee (no disrespect to chimps tho!!)

Not to mention that most of the guys are totally inept at listening to and following any form of rules or instruction, even if they are for their own safety.