Toyota's reliability becoming a concern?

[darkwolf]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news ... d=10543528

Running only 3rd in the UK for reliability. Though it does say from commercial fleets and they do say that the fastest car is a rental car. So how typical the results are could be open to speculation.

Was surprised to see honda doing so well. But then I guess it takes a while for rust to set in

[TazzieDevil]

Imagine though, you were leasing a car for work.

Would you thrash a BMW as much as you would a Honda or Toyota?

The German company's 3-Series range - its biggest seller - has been voted the most reliable car in a study of Britain's vehicle leasing companies, edging out the Toyota Avensis and Honda Accord.

My dad works for Custom Fleet here in wellington, the cars that come back are munted! Scrapes, dings, torn upholstery etc. Whats worse is they try and fix these things cheap, so they don't get charged when they bring it back, but they get charged to fix the fix up, cause its so crap :p

[darkwolf]

Imagine though, you were leasing a car for work.

Would you thrash a BMW as much as you would a Honda or Toyota?

The German company's 3-Series range - its biggest seller - has been voted the most reliable car in a study of Britain's vehicle leasing companies, edging out the Toyota Avensis and Honda Accord.

Of course you would.... nt. I can't imagine a BMW company car being given to a young'un either. It'd more likely be given to the older / more respectable types. The toyota's etc would be given to the younger / more foolish types.

That's what I mean. It's all just statistics. It doesn't even say what it considered a repair to be or the severity of the repairs. Toyota - a bulb needed replaced. Honda - Engine exploded at 4K RPM sending conrod through bonnet.

It also doesn't mention how many KMs each car had done. I can't imagine people driving as far in their BMWs compared to the Toyota or getting used as much during the day. I.E. cold starts stop start driving etc.

I could take results like that and make a Lada look more reliable.

[Leon]

With what they pay me, I'm always far more interested in how reliable a car is when it is 15 years old, than when it is one year old

[Girvs]

Was surprised to see honda doing so well. But then I guess it takes a while for rust to set in

Why so so surprised? Honda makes a very good range of cars and have a positive record for reliability.
While both companies have created cars which have had on occasions had inherited mechanical faults, it would still not detract me from chosing a Honda over a Toyota if I intended to buy a 4 cylinder engine and needed a bit of guts to it.

[darkwolf]

Was surprised to see honda doing so well. But then I guess it takes a while for rust to set in

Why so so surprised? Honda makes a very good range of cars and have a positive record for reliability.
While both companies have created cars which have had on occasions had inherited mechanical faults, it would still not detract me from chosing a Honda over a Toyota if I intended to buy a 4 cylinder engine and needed a bit of guts to it.

I've heard seen numerous hondas with terrible electrics and issues with rust. Also the one or two that I have driven have been awful to drive. No power until you revved the stink outta them. I could only describe the handling as funny and not in a good way.

I do have a lot of respect for their engines its just a shame that they can't do anything about the things that surround the engine. At least in my experiences. I'd have a honda 1600cc over a 4A-GE but then I'm not fond of the 4A-ge anyway. *waits for things to stop being thrown at him* I don't see the appeal of throwing loads of money at an engine that is already hampered by a comparitively low power to weight ratio anyway, from cars that don't have the engine room for a larger engine.

I've never personally owned one, but have a couple of acquaintances who have/do. I've never been impressed either way with them.

[Snoozin]

Once I drove a 1983 Accord with 310,000km on the clock. No power even if you revved it, and it handled funnier than Monty Python played at twice the speed.

Yup, Honda's pretty much suck.

[snwtoy]

Would you thrash a BMW as much as you would a Honda or Toyota?

In the uk, where the study was done there's more euro's than jappas. Jappas are the exotics over there, so yes, yes you would be thrashing your bmw.

[shihad]

Once I drove a 1983 Accord with 310,000km on the clock. No power even if you revved it, and it handled funnier than Monty Python played at twice the speed.

Yup, Honda's pretty much suck.

you drove a car thats 24 years old and high kms what were you expecting?
and based on this experience every car honda produces sucks?

Im not a fan of most honda's but come on thats a bit ruff isn't it.

[Si]

I wonder if the BMWs having the "Im going to flash at you till you get me serviced at an authorised service center" feature forces them to get better maintance than the others?

[Rob_GTZ]

Once I drove a 1983 Accord with 310,000km on the clock. No power even if you revved it, and it handled funnier than Monty Python played at twice the speed.

Yup, Honda's pretty much suck.

you drove a car thats 24 years old and high kms what were you expecting?
and based on this experience every car honda produces sucks?

Im not a fan of most honda's but come on thats a bit ruff isn't it.

Switch on your sarcasm detector Batman

[Bling]

So to update:

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[rollaholic]

honda build brilliant NA cars, alot of their older stuff was very rusty (maybe even more so that toyotas - which are pretty bad too) but newer hondas (like 98ish onwards) are fantastic cars. if i were to suddenly turn into a family man (lol) and needed a semi respectable vehicle, something like a euro R would be streets ahead of the equivalent toyota. (camry sportivo? rofls) type R integras have been the business since day one too.

[Sh0ckwave]

Have to agree with rollaholic, the newer hondas are great cars. My parents have an 01 Torneo and an 01 Stream, they both go very well for what they are.

[toymato]

I had an '85 accord from 10ks to 170ks, and it was incredibly reliable. The drivetrain never missed a beat.

The body, however, had to get rust taken out from under both front and rear windscreens. The guys did a good job, and the rust never returned.

[Timmo]

haha Toyota 'slips' to number 3 in one survey and its 'Toyotas reliability is a concern'?!

Anything in the top 5 isn't exactly going to be a dog reliability wise.

[shihad]

Switch on your sarcasm detector Batman

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[Lith]

haha Toyota 'slips' to number 3 in one survey and its 'Toyotas reliability is a concern'?!

My thoughts exactly. The top 5 could easily also have been hard to decide between... older Hondas used to rust, but mechanically I've never found them to be a problem. Hondas so far have been the most reliable cars I have owned!

[Mr.Phreak]

Yet in the latest Autocar they claim that Suzuki is the most reliable in the UK, while Toyota takes the crown worldwide.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics......

[skoty]

As far as I'm concerned our Toyota Hilux work utes are tough and reliable.

Toyotas I've owned have been reliable

My mates Toyotas they have owned have been reliable

Other people I talk to say there Toyotas are reliable

So I don't think there is really much to worry about Sure there are going to be occasional faults like anything but generally speaking they are pretty impressive.