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by **rollaholic** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:34 pm

alright, its not a toyota, but i know there are some clever heads on this forum so thought i would post up some pictures and see what people thought.

its a 2.2 out of a vectra for the records sake

damage to ring land on cylinder #2
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c296/ ... CN0812.jpg

damage to head & valve above said ring land
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c296/ ... CN0813.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c296/ ... CN0814.jpg

some pics of the headgasket - you can see its gotten rather warped in places
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c296/ ... CN0816.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c296/ ... CN0817.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c296/ ... CN0818.jpg

im curious as to what people think came first - the presumed detonation or the headgasket?

personally im leaning towards the headgasket... it was replaced approx 6 months ago, but the head bolts were not. after all the discussion about torque to yield headbolts a few weeks ago i thought it might be an interesting example.

by **Lloyd** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:38 pm

Got the piston out yet?

Head gaskets don't tend to do that sort of damage

by **RunningRich** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:56 pm

It's a Vauxhall. It commited suicide due to shame.

no grip · by **Akane** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:59 pm

IMO head gasket came last. It got so hot so suddenly the damages to other components first, and then the headgasket changes shape due to extreme tempretures.

by **Boosted_162** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:04 pm

RunningRich wrote:It's a Vauxhall. It commited suicide due to shame.

I think this is the answer!! Workmates got a Vectra. Its been nothing but trouble

At its worst it blew 3 gearboxes in about 2 months

Website · by **Bling** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:11 pm

Boosted_162 wrote:At its worst it blew 3 gearboxes in about 2 months

The car blew them or the person behind the wheel with a heavy pair of boots? :lol:

by **Boosted_162** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:16 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:
Boosted_162 wrote:At its worst it blew 3 gearboxes in about 2 months

The car blew them or the person behind the wheel with a heavy pair of boots?

Nah was definately the car!! Shes in her 30's and has absolutely no interest in cars and doesnt treat them bad

by **rollaholic** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:16 pm

my theory was headgasket > overheating > soaring combustion chamber temp > detonation

we had another vectra blow a second head gasket in a similar time frame last year, once again no new headbolts.

put new headbolts in and has been sweet for 12 months +

HRT - im not taking the piston out, we are replacing the entire engine. though i could pull it to bits if you thought it might shed some light?

by **Lloyd** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:25 pm

I'd be curious to see how bad the side of the piston is if you get bored

by **mr30%jr** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:48 pm

nope

something fell in that motor. or its cam timing was $&#$%

by **rollaholic** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:52 pm

i should be clearer when i say the headgasket had blown

when it came in, i started pouring water into the reservoir to see what would happen. after about 6 litres and not a drop on the floor i was thinking, what the $&#$% is it doing with it all?

then i heard a gurgling sound and the sparkplug holes of all four cylinders started overflowing with water!

HRT - we are getting the replacement engine tomorrow i think, so might take the motor apart next weekend. im kinda curious too! if there was much debris it was too big to come out the oil drain :lol: