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Pre '89 1UZ?

Postby postfach » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:47 am

Did anything produced before 31 December 1988 come factory with a 1UZ?
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Postby Adamal » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:52 am

According to Wikipedia (A highly reliable source, according to sergei :P)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_UZ_engine#1UZ-FE

They first came out in 1989 in the Celsior/LS400
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Postby postfach » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:55 am

Lame, I searched on Wikipedia before posting, for "1UZ-FE" and it came up with nothing.

That sucks though, I need a pre 89 toyota with a decent motor in it >_<
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Postby Adamal » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:01 am

And on the 8th day, God created engine swaps!
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Postby postfach » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:04 am

Not allowed :( I want to enter a car in the new Classic Japanese Series, and the rules state the motor has to be factory fitted, not from a different/newer model.

I could put a 1G-GTE in my spare z20 but I don't really want to go backwards like that.
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Postby Adamal » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:10 am

Sounds like an interesting series!

Its a shame, but the Z20's didn't come with the 1JZ, did they? :(
I think you might be stuck with a 1G :(
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Postby postfach » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:19 am

No, they didn't :(

Oh well, its looking like the 1G is going to be the cheapest option.
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Postby sergei » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:36 am

Adamal wrote:According to Wikipedia (A highly reliable source, according to sergei :P)

Hey I said I am lazy you windows zealot :lol:
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Postby Adamal » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:48 am

Hahaha go slide your GT4 and get rid of some of your Windows anger :mrgreen:
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Postby cogent » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:48 am

if he's a windows zealot then you're a linux neckbeard.
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Postby audi man » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:45 pm

postfach wrote:Not allowed :( I want to enter a car in the new Classic Japanese Series, and the rules state the motor has to be factory fitted, not from a different/newer model.

I could put a 1G-GTE in my spare z20 but I don't really want to go backwards like that.
But that spare z20 of yours came out with a 7mgte
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Postby postfach » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:54 pm

I know but as far as I can tell, it can be any motor that came out in the chassis, not just the one that particular chassis had.


And awesome, I started a sergei argument thread :lol:
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Postby Lith » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:50 pm

postfach wrote:Oh well, its looking like the 1G is going to be the cheapest option.


4AGEs not an option? What about a 5V-EU? Be pretty sweet to see a Crown or something along those lines roaring around the track haha
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Postby sergei » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:57 pm

1GGE can be more powerful than 4AGE 16V, it is basically same motor with 2 extra cylinders...
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Postby postfach » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:57 pm

Yeah a 4AGE would be an option if I had a car to put it in. I meant cheapest because I already have a chassis, gearbox and spares for a Z20, so a 1G would be good in that.

If I can find a complete running car with a 4AGE in it for a reasonable price its definitely an option.

Excuse my ignorance, whats a 5V-EU?
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Postby sergei » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:58 pm

5V is copy of American V8 that is been used in old crowns.
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Postby fuel » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:01 pm

sergei wrote:1GGE can be more powerful than 4AGE 16V, it is basically same motor with 2 extra cylinders...


Am pretty sure that's a myth. Yes they look very similar in construction and appearance, but that's just because they were designed in the same era. 2T-GEU and 18R-G look very similar but are completely different engines.

The 1G-GE and 4A-GE don't share any parts from memory, their bore/strokes are different sized, even the cambelt arrangement and water pump placement is different.
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Postby sergei » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:04 pm

fuel wrote:
sergei wrote:1GGE can be more powerful than 4AGE 16V, it is basically same motor with 2 extra cylinders...


Am pretty sure that's a myth. Yes they look very similar in construction and appearance, but that's just because they were designed in the same era. 2T-GEU and 18R-G look very similar but are completely different engines.

The 1G-GE and 4A-GE don't share any parts from memory, their bore/strokes are different sized, even the cambelt arrangement and water pump placement is different.


Yeah I am aware of that, but technically the whole concept is very similar, similar valve angle, valve size and combustion chamber...
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Postby Lith » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:14 pm

postfach wrote:Yeah a 4AGE would be an option if I had a car to put it in. I meant cheapest because I already have a chassis, gearbox and spares for a Z20, so a 1G would be good in that.


Ahh right gotcha, I thought you might be building a new car and a Z20 was just considered familiar territory/most grunt potential. Disregard that last post :) 5V-EU is a 4litre iron block pushrod V8 Toyota had, last of the "V" series Toyota motors which go back to mid/early 60s Toyotas I believe :D Pretty sure people use them in boat racing and such these days, pretty tough.
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Postby postfach » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:22 pm

I would build another car if it worked out cheaper, its just that I've got quite a good selection of bits that work together.

A 1G-GTE, rebuilt with a bit of headwork, a nice turbo and other bolt ons should go alright, and I still have my daily JZZ20 :P
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