has anybody seen it done?

[kurtis1791]

ive just decided to ditch the 4age for my kp starlet and decided to build a 302 cleveland powered starlet just wanting to see if anybodys seen this done before?

[Lloyd]

Out of curiosity, why not go the 1UZ option? No reason to keep the injection if you don't want to, not too hard to get box and things to suit etc

[kurtis1791]

Out of curiosity, why not go the 1UZ option? No reason to keep the injection if you don't want to, not too hard to get box and things to suit etc

ive seen that done before, havent seen this done before and the difference in price is about half the price for 302 and making more ponys already

[strx7]

work out the price for EVERYTHING you need to do the conversion, both auto, or both manual. what are you planning on using for the diff?

I seriously doubt it is HALF the price for a 302 thats making over 250hp unless its expected to implode at any moment

[tsoob]

ITS GONNA BE FUKN MEAN BRO

[FLAWLES]

why a ford v8?

have you thought about all the extra weight over the front axle????

ever thought about mounting a rover v8 behind the cross member like this beast



have heaps of engine pics at home

just remeber lots of weight over the front axle will make that car into a misson to keep on the road

3sge/te or a 4g63 turbo mitsi engine would be teh best path imo

[Adoom]

I think the 302 will make the starlet handle like crap.
The 302 will be a huge heavy lump of cast iron. The 1UZ is all alloy. MUCH lighter. It is still way heavier than a 4cylinder. You may also want to mount the 1UZ behind the engine x-member, which means you have to dispose of the whole firewall and make a new one.
I have heard that the 1UZ is 'similar' dimensions to the Rover V8.

There is a V8 Starlet in the lower Nth island somewhere, I saw it once when I was at manfield. He never opened the bonnet where I could see so I dunno what kind of V8 is was. The Starlet was kermit green and extra extra wide with some HUGE slicks on it.
OOOOH Look I have a photo!

[fangsport]

The 302 will be a huge heavy lump of cast iron. The 1UZ is all alloy. MUCH lighter.

any proof to back that claim up??

[postfach]

Ford 302 V8 weighs 208kg, 1UZ is 177kg*



*according to the internets

[fangsport]

Ford 302 V8 weighs 208kg, 1UZ is 177kg*



*according to the internets

30kg Pffft,have seen numbers for 1UZ a smidgen under 200kg, but unsure what un-needed accessories were weighed? which is smaller and is better supported by many many years of factory and aftermarket supply?
yeah yeah, 1UZ can make some power, but Detroit iron will be cheaper.

no substitiute for cubes

[FLAWLES]

rover v8 mounted behind the x member and way the hell in the fire wall
engine for above white starship, unsure as to were the car is based but its somewere in the b o p area
top guy too
ftw

[frost]

rover v8 loses 30ml of coolant and over heats FTL.
rover v8 leaks oil to death from every seal FTL.

[Lloyd]

rover v8 loses 30ml of coolant and over heats FTL.
rover v8 leaks oil to death from every seal FTL.

Might pay to build it properly then

[frost]

well they come factory like that.

[Stott69]

I think the 302 will make the starlet handle like crap.
The 302 will be a huge heavy lump of cast iron. The 1UZ is all alloy. MUCH lighter. It is still way heavier than a 4cylinder. You may also want to mount the 1UZ behind the engine x-member, which means you have to dispose of the whole firewall and make a new one.
I have heard that the 1UZ is 'similar' dimensions to the Rover V8.

There is a V8 Starlet in the lower Nth island somewhere, I saw it once when I was at manfield. He never opened the bonnet where I could see so I dunno what kind of V8 is was. The Starlet was kermit green and extra extra wide with some HUGE slicks on it.
OOOOH Look I have a photo!

Think Iv seen this car too, and if i can remember correctly and going by the logo infront of the bonnet I'd say its a chevy in there

[jakesae101]

most of the nz supersedans were chevs they now have a few more a ae86 levin with a 1uz the powerbuilt mustang is a cossie v8 an rb powerd ceffy and datsun and the twin turbo f40 kit car but yes that starlet is a 350 chev http://www.nzsupersedans.com/html/warren_lauder.html i hvae met quite a few of the super sedan guys when i was a spanner hand for a guy who races one a few years back they all seem pretty cool they have some nice rides

[steve murch]

I'm going to get shot for this one but i hate to say it but a small block Chev is cheaper to mod than a 1uz,the only reason i wouldn't go with the ford is cost.
you spend 5k on a Chev and you can can have 450-500hp and there isn't a big weight difference between that and a 1uz.
you put ally vette heads on it and that takes 30kgs off again.
a new set of edelbrock performer heads or world cup heads are 1800new,with valves and springs.
hyper pistons are 500 a set,eagle rods 600 a set etc etc,due to the fact its the most commonly produced motor in the world makes for cheap parts.
if you can find a old Donovan ally block or a rodec then there's no weight difference and its a smaller motor than a 1uz.
and it'll make a ton more torque, now add a turbo? hmmm then it gets interesting

[fangsport]

I'm going to get shot for this one but i hate to say it but a small block Chev is cheaper to mod than a 1uz,the only reason i wouldn't go with the ford is cost.
you spend 5k on a Chev and you can can have 450-500hp and there isn't a big weight difference between that and a 1uz.
you put ally vette heads on it and that takes 30kgs off again.
a new set of edelbrock performer heads or world cup heads are 1800new,with valves and springs.
hyper pistons are 500 a set,eagle rods 600 a set etc etc,due to the fact its the most commonly produced motor in the world makes for cheap parts.
if you can find a old Donovan ally block or a rodec then there's no weight difference and its a smaller motor than a 1uz.
and it'll make a ton more torque, now add a turbo? hmmm then it gets interesting

you'll get a bluey for not appeasing the the 1UZ fanboys,Steve!!
the only thing that makes the 1UZ a good option is in a class like superstocks where 4l is on the cusp of the CI/CC limit (but they should of introduced an RPM limit to keep costs down).

[Lloyd]

Nothing wrong with putting the old V8 in there, just seemed like an easier option with the UZ. No big carby sticking up high etc

Are you wanting to make big power on it or just have a relatively standard engine? As has been said there are a million parts out there for them if you want to start throwing money at it

[steve murch]

I'm going to get shot for this one but i hate to say it but a small block Chev is cheaper to mod than a 1uz,the only reason i wouldn't go with the ford is cost.
you spend 5k on a Chev and you can can have 450-500hp and there isn't a big weight difference between that and a 1uz.
you put ally vette heads on it and that takes 30kgs off again.
a new set of edelbrock performer heads or world cup heads are 1800new,with valves and springs.
hyper pistons are 500 a set,eagle rods 600 a set etc etc,due to the fact its the most commonly produced motor in the world makes for cheap parts.
if you can find a old Donovan ally block or a rodec then there's no weight difference and its a smaller motor than a 1uz.
and it'll make a ton more torque, now add a turbo? hmmm then it gets interesting

you'll get a bluey for not appeasing the the 1UZ fanboys,Steve!!
the only thing that makes the 1UZ a good option is in a class like superstocks where 4l is on the cusp of the CI/CC limit (but they should of introduced an RPM limit to keep costs down).

yes im sure they wont be happy but hay its all true when it comes to bang for dollar.
i know its a good option for the stock car boys but they also spend a lot making the numbers out of them.
i think there was a guy Kerry Rowe? he was doing some trick stuff with them running a carb but they are still turning them to 10500rpm?
now that doesn't come cheap.
the fact remains cost will depict what you do regardless of the needs or wants