Formula 1 2009

[Adamal]

and wtf vettel gets a 10 place penalty next race! rbr fined 50k for ordering him to continue with 3 wheels.....

I thought that was strange aye! The commentators were constantly saying that in those sorts of situations, you have to pull off the track. I was thinking that surely they would have radioed him to pull off.

[JustinSpiderholden]

I don't think it will be long until we see Brendan Hartley in one of the Torro Rossos' now either maybe next season

Bordasis looked as average as ever again yesterday, he was even shown up by his rookie team mate

Hopefully Torro Rosso realise how incredibly average he is and give him the boot end of the season

Yesterdays race was jsut brilliant, I can not wait for Malayisia now, will be very intresting to see how te new cars perform on a proper race track

Also will be intresting to see if KERS has a greater effect on the longer straights

I must say i was a we bit disspointed in KERS thou, as even when on it the cars didnt seem to go much faster

[Adamal]

I don't know about that. There were a couple of situation where would you see the KERS getting used, and definatly give enough for an overtake.

[JustinSpiderholden]

I don't know about that. There were a couple of situation where would you see the KERS getting used, and definatly give enough for an overtake.

IMO an example of this was Glocks brilliant move on Alonso

I was thinking that Glock would be able to pull level with him, but then on accelration i was waitng for Alonso to hit the button and hold him at bay

But he was able to just go past

Also was intresting when they had the in car, and Kimi has used up all of of KERS before even half way thought a lap, I think once all the team have worked out KERS and have it reliable hopefully the can increase the lengh of discharge time

[Mr Revhead]

there are rules governing limiting how much KERS can be used.

im quite perplexed about bourdais. he ran rings around everyone in CART, and not ALL of them are muppets.

[JustinSpiderholden]

there are rules governing limiting how much KERS can be used.

im quite perplexed about bourdais. he ran rings around everyone in CART, and not ALL of them are muppets.

I'm equally perplexed, as yeah 4 times cart champion plus with the new rules which I would have thought would have suited him, he was out done by his team mate who looked to be struggling for most of the weekend but had a great consistant race

[2jayzgte]

there are rules governing limiting how much KERS can be used.

im quite perplexed about bourdais. he ran rings around everyone in CART, and not ALL of them are muppets.

Just shows you the difference really between CART and F1 its the length of the street and to be fair his teamate showed him up pretty badly yesterday.I think the guy is quite good but unfortunately everyone is just really good in F1 so if your not the real deal you get found out fairly quickly.

[Audi]

I cannot see how Vettel got docked places for that crash! He had no where to go, you can't expect him to drive off course just so someone can overtake him! That sucks.

[2jayzgte]

I cannot see how Vettel got docked places for that crash! He had no where to go, you can't expect him to drive off course just so someone can overtake him! That sucks.

I think Vettel's penalty was acessed for not pulling to the side after his car had the accident basically driving around in a damaged car or something along those lines I could be wrong but I'm sure one of the F1 Professors on here will correct me about what the exact ruling was.

[Mr Revhead]

autosport said penalty for the crash
50k fine for the team as they told him to keep going

[Audi]

That's what the F1 website says too. Strange!

[Jdawg]

and this is why so many people outside of England dislike Hamilton and Mclaren

Auto Motor und Sport claims however that Hamilton denied driving slowly to let Trulli past. Instead, the Briton told stewards he simply moved off the racing line 'because he was busy reading the safety car instructions from the display'.

FIA officials, however, are now querying this explanation, as the safety car instructions would have long been cleared from Hamilton's display.

Moreover, despite his apparent admission to the reporter, Hamilton is believed to have told the stewards that he did not intentionally let Trulli pass.

In the past days, the FIA officials have checked Hamilton's radio traffic at the time of the incident, and speculation suggests that the stewards investigation may be re-opened in Malaysia this weekend.

[Mr Revhead]

sounds like trying to imply guilt by using tricky wording!

we saw the incident on tv.... trulli going off and hamilton passing him. fair enough.
but didnt see the repass. it would be good if we could see that.

if you run off the track and lose places, then tough. your not allowed to repass.
trulli says hamilton went so slow that he HAD to pass, thats a bit of an odd claim, i mean yeah if he stopped then he could pass, or if he slowed suddenly and trulli zipped passed as he was caught by surprise or the closing speed too great then yeah he passes, but would have to slow and let hamilton past immediatly. but saying he went so slow that it was impossible not to pass? thats weird.
all seems very weird to me!

[JustinSpiderholden]

Anything that is not seen to screen is very werid

I'm getting worried that this season is going to be ruined by appeals

I think the FIA appeal court needs to be removed and a Stewards decsion is final, but I also think the same Stewards should be emplyed for every race of the entire season so that there is consistancy in there decsions

[Mr Revhead]

yeah....

i dont think you should remove the right of appeal.
but i agree on the one lot of decision makers for the entire season.
i dont see where the confusion comes in. the amount of camera footage, telementr etc is staggering...

[JustinSpiderholden]

yeah....

i dont think you should remove the right of appeal.
but i agree on the one lot of decision makers for the entire season.
i dont see where the confusion comes in. the amount of camera footage, telementr etc is staggering...

I think that the cars need to be surtinnered at the start of the season when they are released

Make a decsion then and there about what legal before the season starts
As the way things are run at moment is jsut to messy

Geeze the whoel championship is still in the air pending the appeal before the Chinese GP

decsion's need to be amde quickly and efficently

Yeah I can't belive how the Hamilton / Trulli mess has even got this far, they jsut need to check what was siad to each driver form there teams, watch the footage, see the telemtre and make a decsion can't be that hard can it?

[fangsport]

yeah....

i dont think you should remove the right of appeal.
but i agree on the one lot of decision makers for the entire season.
i dont see where the confusion comes in. the amount of camera footage, telementr etc is staggering...

I think that the cars need to be surtinnered at the start of the season when they are released

Make a decsion then and there about what legal before the season starts
As the way things are run at moment is jsut to messy

Geeze the whoel championship is still in the air pending the appeal before the Chinese GP

decsion's need to be amde quickly and efficently

Yeah I can't belive how the Hamilton / Trulli mess has even got this far, they jsut need to check what was siad to each driver form there teams, watch the footage, see the telemtre and make a decsion can't be that hard can it?

bear in mind, Max dosn't seem to allow descisions in Hamiltons favour, add to the fact that Toyota (and a couple of others) played a decent 'trump-card' interpreting the new rules putting them out of favour as well as Ferrari being very average and not benefitting the outcome .................. makes for a tricky descision

[JustinSpiderholden]

Intresting Trulli has been reinstated to 3rd place

This season jsut gets stranger

[Mr Revhead]

wtf is going on

[fivebob]

:? wtf is going on

Need you ask

Looks like the championship is going to be decided in the stewards room and the appeals tribunal