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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:41 am

actually ferrari are showing true pre shumacher era ferrari form! :lol:


i think fivebobs right about mclaren and hamilton, think back to melbourne where under the safety car hamilton was saying he couldnt keep the tyres warm.
$5 says new aero package is no 1 priority for them!
that and nerf bars for kovilinen!!

if it wasnt for that crazy penalty from melbourne vettel would have been number one danger man i reckon
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:14 am

it just occured to me that maybe mclarens issue is they tried to develop the car to be easy on its tyres, given it has been an issue one or twice given hamiltons style sometimes. so maybe they went a bit too far in that direction.
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Postby JustinSpiderholden » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:06 pm

Another Intresting race

Brawn is going really well, as are the rest of the teams with the good defuser desgins

Will be intresting to see what happens now at the FIA court of appeal

Stoked to see Williams and Toyota up at the front for once

The mix up that has happend this season is the best thing to ever happen to the sport
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:01 pm

yes definitely a very interesting season!

my prediction for FIA court, protest thrown out and results stand
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Postby JustinSpiderholden » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:22 am

Mr Revhead wrote:yes definitely a very interesting season!

my prediction for FIA court, protest thrown out and results stand


I hope so but you never know with the FIA
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Postby Jdawg » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:54 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:it just occured to me that maybe mclarens issue is they tried to develop the car to be easy on its tyres, given it has been an issue one or twice given hamiltons style sometimes. so maybe they went a bit too far in that direction.

Don't forget with KERS the teams have had to shift as much weight as they can to the front of the car to try and keep them balanced. Hamilton's driving style is to throw the car into the corner and flick it out. Looking at Malaysian GP footage, esp the practices (thanks Sky) it was obvious the McLaren is lacking front end grip for him. McLaren might have been tight in the ballast dept.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:55 pm

he should learn to clutch kick then :lol:
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Postby Adamal » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:03 am

And bust out a Westside?
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Postby Jdawg » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:37 pm

I thought it was just a media beat up to take heat off McLaren talking about MS being responsible for Kimi's wet tyre mistake till I read this part of a MS interview pre Melbourne

"What advice do you give to the (Ferrari)Formula One drivers during the race?

MS: No, you see, that’s what I meant when I said before, I’m not getting into the details because I’m not there all the time. If I would be there all the time, probably I would do so but I was never interested to speak to too many people while I’m sitting in the car, so I guess [laughter], the current drivers are not really too interested in it either. They have their direct engineer, that’s the only person that would talk to them and very often, yes, I do talk to this engineer, that we stay together, especially changeable weather conditions. I remember in Monza, it was a little bit difficult and chaotic race, and the engineers come to me and say, what do you think, what are we going to do? What tyres we put and so on, and in this one I can be, obviously, very helpful because it’s very easy to overview this if you’re not too busy with other things. The engineers, they have to look at so many other things and the driver as well, so it’s straightforward, but never directly to the drivers. After the race, yes. "

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Postby JustinSpiderholden » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:56 am

So they are Legal

Awsome

BMW, Ferrari, Reanult and RedBull can all go and buy some Lemons to suck on

Bring on the race this weekend, hopefully Toyota can score some more points
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Postby GTTpower » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:07 am

Looks like the FIA are actually encouraging the present 'shake up'. One of their better decisions :)
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Postby thornz » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:27 pm

Well, after first practice, LOOOIS was top of the time sheets. No idea what fuel loads, but they are running a new fancy pants difuser, so could perhaps be true pace??

Anyway, praccy two is on now,

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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:28 am

hmmm 13th in 2nd practice.....
my money will not be on a mclaren podium just yet!
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Postby thornz » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:06 pm

Gooooo Vettel! Im loving the unpredictability of this season, fantastic stuff! Red Bulls seem to have real pace, being quick in Q2 also which is run on fumes. So, who needs a fancy pants rear diffuser? Not Red Bull it seems.

I think Alonso is running light, but its great to see him back up at the pointy end!
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:15 pm

8O

OK, WHO PREDICTED THAT? :lol:
vettel pole.... and on his ONLY flying lap of the session!

BAM take that! :lol:

in other news im hanging out to see some weights. looks like mclaren have made some ground up

and bourdais and piqeut should probably be looking for new jobs....

briatore seems to be gettgin his panties in a twist.... refer'd to button as a slow driver... buttons reply was to remind him that briatore tried to hire him for this season.. oh snap :lol:

and more briatore sour grapes....
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Postby Jdawg » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:02 pm

Piquet doesn't have the new diffuser but does have a famous Dad.

Wonder if Renault are using the diffuser that got knocked back in January as is or if they had to modify it. It has given Alonso a bit more speed.
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Postby fivebob » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:01 am

The weights from qualifying make for interesting reading. I knew Alonso was light, but I didn't think the Red Bulls would be as light as they were. But to me the most interesting weights are Raikkonen and Hamilton.

1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 644kg
2. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 637
3. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 646.5
4. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 661
5. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 659
6. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 664.5
7. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 650.5
8. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 673.5
9. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 679
10. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 673
11. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 679
12. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 697
13. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 690
14. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 682.7
15. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 690
16. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 697.9
17. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 659
18. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 648
19. Timo Glock, Toyota, 652
20. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 679.5

Based on the above, if nothing major happens before the first stops, I'll make a prediction that after the first round of stops the likely order could be;
1. Rubens Barrichello
2. Jarno Trulli
3. Jenson Button
4. Sebastian Vettel
5. Mark Webber
6. Lewis Hamilton
7. Kimi Raikkonen
8. Fernando Alonso
9. Nico Rosberg
10. Sebastien Buemi

I'm also guessing that Alonso and the Red Bulls will start on the super soft tyre and get that out of the way early on.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:37 am

yes interesting, and they were talking about the possibility of rain as well
shaping up to be a good one!
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Postby 2jayzgte » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:08 am

I'm just praying for my man Raikkonen cant some points on the board while Ferrari get there act together.It will be interesting to see how long it takes these top teams to get a new and legal diffuser packages that Brawn Toyota RBR have on there cars to even the competition out a little.

I'm not surprised about Vettel's performance at all he's just carrying on his form from last year but it does seem that those Renault enines have a little more go than last year and also so Adrian Newey has designed them a good car aswell.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:26 pm

well, good victory for vettel and 1-2 for red bull!
i was gutted when i saw start under safety car, but turned out to be a very entertaining race!
also good result for buemi!
and a bit of a what if for trulli i think. pretty sure he would have had some points

bad luck for sutil.... and as commentator said about lap 2.. congratulations kovalinen for completing your first race lap of 2009 :P

ferrari must just about be in a full panic! worst start to season since 1981! :o
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