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by **RomanV** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:38 pm

Who cares, if you dont like the V8 series in its current incarnation, dont watch it. I cant say I'm a big fan, meh.

Obviously there's a lot of aussie history and pride in the ford/holden battles , let them enjoy playing with their toys I reckon

It's not as if either of the cars bares any resemblance to the street cars apart from the body shell shape, what difference does it make if a few of the cars have a toyota badge on the front? Apart from potentially making less people interested in what is currently mostly aussies and kiwis, watching aussie cars race around.

by **Mr Revhead** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:38 pm

Jdawg wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:
you are so wrong its not even funny!

ford and holden do not set the rules for V8s, never have.

Lol, really. So when Toyota asked to play and got told to go away by Ford/Holden because they had not put any money into the development of V8 supercars series, that wasn't making rules up.

that never happened
please show me where ford and holden told toyota to go away and actually had any official power to do so.
as it happens it looks like other makes will be allowed from 2011, they are looking at new rules now.

now, to get the facts straight. after the death of group A, note death not aussie banning other cars, CAMS needed to devise a new formula for touring car racing in aussie. there was nothing suitable running anywhere else in the world.
the rules they came up with were for production based cars built in aussie. the V8 RWD platform was decided on as thats what the fans wanted. as demonstrated by the years they ran 2 bathurst 1000s. the V8s drew massive crowds, the 2ltrs barely anyone.
developing a forum for the local companies was a factor, and why not? nothing wrong with looking after your own interests.

too many ppl look back at group A with rose tinted glasses, fact is often they struggled to get grids of ten cars at some ATCC rounds. and of those numerous cars at bathurst, 99% were making up the numbers while 5 or so actually had a chance at winning, now days, nearly half the field has a chance. group a was just too exspensive, to get any idea go read the article on the VN group A SS in the lastest aussie muscle car mag.

now, if you want to further discuss group A, then how about a different topic as this thread is for F1

by **fivebob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:21 pm

Jdawg wrote:Well, Of course, Ron Dennis has helped F1 for little or no gain for years.

Corrected for truth

What a lot of drama. I don't see how you guys think FOTA will get up and running and be popular with everybody in such a small space of time.

By utilising existing promotions networks like Dorma

Regardless of that I still think it's just part of the negotiation process, Max likes playing hardbal, bluff, threat and bully is really the only language he understands

As the BBC mentioned last night, 20 odd million watching F1, 20,000 watching A1GP.

So next year it'll be 20mil watching Formula Unlimited Max, or FU-Max for short, and 20,000 watching Fauxmula 1

F1 is about race teams, always has been. Ferrari started out making racecars.

Exactly, and if the teams leave F1 it will no longer be F1. Fans follow teams, the don't follow rule makers, so if the teams go elsewhere (especially Ferrari) the fans will follow.

by **Mr Revhead** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:19 am

yeah, one series will have ferrari and monaco and the other wont.
hmmmmm :wink:

maybe this is a good chance fro brands hatch to make it back to the top!

by **frost** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:28 am

fivebob wrote: FU-Max for short

haha i like.

by **rolla_fxgt** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:05 am

this is brilliant comedy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO8TLBn7z1k

probably best not watch it if you like max mosely

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:35 pm

oh thats good

by **JustinSpiderholden** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:42 pm

"The full FOTA 2010 schedule, as published in The Guardian, is as follows:

7 March Buenos Aires Argentina Last hosted F1 in 1998

21 March Mexico City Mexico Last hosted F1 in 1992

11 April Jerez Spain Last hosted F1 in 1997

25 April Portimao Portugal Never hosted F1

2 May Imola San Marino Last hosted F1 in 2006

23 May Monte Carlo Monaco Current F1 host

6 June Montreal Canada Last hosted F1 in 2008

13 June Indianapolis United States Last hosted F1 in 2007

11 July Silverstone United Kingdom Current F1 host

25 July Magny-Cours France Last hosted F1 in 2008

15 August Laustizring Germany Never hosted F1

29 August Helsinki Finland Never hosted F1

12 September Monza Italy Current F1 host

26 September Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates Current F1 host

10 October Marina Bay Singapore Current F1 host

24 October Suzuka Japan Last hosted F1 in 2006

7 November Adelaide or Surfers' Paradise Australia Last hosted F1 in 1995/Never hosted F1"

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:50 pm

interesting

boo mangy course and no brands hatch! or spa!

by **xsspeed** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:33 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:boo mangy course and no brands hatch! or spa!

Am I missing an in joke?

by **Adamal** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:50 pm

rolla_fxgt wrote:this is brilliant comedy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO8TLBn7z1k

probably best not watch it if you like max mosely

Oh god, not that thing again... Its the next Rick Astley, I swear.
There have been so many varations... Hitler broke his gearbox launching too many times in his new GT-R.... Hitler has his WoW account deleted... Hitler's ISP cuts him off.... etc etc

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:09 pm

xsspeed wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:boo mangy course and no brands hatch! or spa!

Am I missing an in joke?

magny-cours, aka mangy course. worst F1 track ever.
spa my fav F1 track. and brands is the track i would most like to see in F1

by **xsspeed** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:18 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:
xsspeed wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:boo mangy course and no brands hatch! or spa!

Am I missing an in joke?

magny-cours, aka mangy course. worst F1 track ever.
spa my fav F1 track. and brands is the track i would most like to see in F1

got it in the end

by **fivebob** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:24 am

JustinSpiderholden wrote:"The full FOTA 2010 schedule, as published in The Guardian, is as follows: ...

All pretty academic now that they've kissed and made up. At least Mad Max will be gone in October, pity that they didn't manage to get rid of Bernie though.

by **Makaveli** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:10 am

As I have predicted.......

by **Leon** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:37 am

Leon wrote:This is of course assuming that there isn't more back-pedalling than a reverse bicycle race. Which is quite likely to happen.

[posture flex]
[raaaaaah]
[ultimatum]
[bluff]
[backdown]
[negotiated truce]

is generally how such games are played out.

Oh look, I was right. Who'd have guessed it
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport ... -F1-series

by **Mr Revhead** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:56 am

well at least you were right in the right direction..
FIA backed down and max is gone in oct! w00t!

by **JustinSpiderholden** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:02 am

Damn, well thats a lame ending

Pity was actaully getting kinda of excited for a new series with our so many stupid races with empty Grand Stands

So Spanky is gone, damn now someones need to re-move the midget

by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:18 pm

not over yet :roll:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76529

by **fivebob** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:46 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:not over yet

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76529

Typical, Spanky always has to appear in control and have the last word :roll:

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