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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:35 am

:lol: plug much bazda
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Postby gtterror » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:07 pm

snwtoy wrote:
Bazda wrote:
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snwtoy wrote:I have the T3/4 st215 kit. Been good for over a year now.

I must get round to hooking up the wastegate tho. Freebosting ftl :(
Can't comment on the quality of the w/g yet hah. The turbo does not have a place to attach the pressure line for the w/g, although it does have a blanked off nub which I will eventually get drilled out lol.


Why do you need to do that, just run a vacuum line from the intake manifold.


Im looking a running the same setup on my caldina 215gtt soon. Did you have to get a new computer or anything to run or did it all just bolt up and away you went? What about intercooler is it in the way?

Much difference power wise?
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Postby snwtoy » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:59 pm

gtterror wrote:
snwtoy wrote:
Bazda wrote:
snwtoy wrote:
Bazda wrote:
snwtoy wrote:I have the T3/4 st215 kit. Been good for over a year now.

I must get round to hooking up the wastegate tho. Freebosting ftl :(
Can't comment on the quality of the w/g yet hah. The turbo does not have a place to attach the pressure line for the w/g, although it does have a blanked off nub which I will eventually get drilled out lol.


Why do you need to do that, just run a vacuum line from the intake manifold.


Im looking a running the same setup on my caldina 215gtt soon. Did you have to get a new computer or anything to run or did it all just bolt up and away you went? What about intercooler is it in the way?

Much difference power wise?


Well I wouldn't say it just 'bolts up'. You don't need a new computer though (well for the moment it's holding together). There's a decent amount of fabrication required for a turbo downpipe and plumback for the wastegate. The oil return from the turbo also needs modification. The pipe to the airbox is a pain in the arss - I need to work out how to sort that out so it lines up better, plus deal to the throttle bypass line which is a cnut to connect as per my new thread. Also the turbo doesn't have a place to connect the external wastegate feed (it's not internally gated, so wtf?).

Aside from that, the intercooler is twisted slightly out of position with my setup of a 2.5-2" 90 degree reducer and a 2" 90 degree elbow.

Power wise I can't really comment. It's slower to spool than the standard turbo but comes on with a hell of a kick. Does seem like if I get mine sorted properly it'll be a decent amount more power, with the downpipe and bigger turbo.
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Postby tsoob » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:26 am

snwtoy wrote:
Bazda wrote:
snwtoy wrote:I have the T3/4 st215 kit. Been good for over a year now.

I must get round to hooking up the wastegate tho. Freebosting ftl :(
Can't comment on the quality of the w/g yet hah. The turbo does not have a place to attach the pressure line for the w/g, although it does have a blanked off nub which I will eventually get drilled out lol.


Why do you need to do that, just run a vacuum line from the intake manifold.


Post throttle? :?


its fine, if you think about it the w/g only opens when you are on the throttle anyway.
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Postby sergei » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:02 pm

tsoob wrote:
snwtoy wrote:
Bazda wrote:
snwtoy wrote:I have the T3/4 st215 kit. Been good for over a year now.

I must get round to hooking up the wastegate tho. Freebosting ftl :(
Can't comment on the quality of the w/g yet hah. The turbo does not have a place to attach the pressure line for the w/g, although it does have a blanked off nub which I will eventually get drilled out lol.


Why do you need to do that, just run a vacuum line from the intake manifold.


Post throttle? :?


its fine, if you think about it the w/g only opens when you are on the throttle anyway.


When I had wastegates plugged into the manifold (they would see vacuum and all) with electronic boost controller, they would open from vacuum, and I would get massive lag. But that only applies to EBC 2 port setup with external waste gates (where you have one line reference another from solenoid)
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Postby tsoob » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:37 pm

sergei wrote:
tsoob wrote:
snwtoy wrote:
Bazda wrote:
snwtoy wrote:I have the T3/4 st215 kit. Been good for over a year now.

I must get round to hooking up the wastegate tho. Freebosting ftl :(
Can't comment on the quality of the w/g yet hah. The turbo does not have a place to attach the pressure line for the w/g, although it does have a blanked off nub which I will eventually get drilled out lol.


Why do you need to do that, just run a vacuum line from the intake manifold.


Post throttle? :?


its fine, if you think about it the w/g only opens when you are on the throttle anyway.


When I had wastegates plugged into the manifold (they would see vacuum and all) with electronic boost controller, they would open from vacuum, and I would get massive lag. But that only applies to EBC 2 port setup with external waste gates (where you have one line reference another from solenoid)


boost tap = win!
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Postby IH8TEC » Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:51 am

seconded :lol: dont need this electronic stuff.
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Postby iOnic » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:00 am

lol thirded. EBC's really complicate something that doesn't need complicating.........A good external wastegate + a good boost tap = rock solid boost control and simplicity.
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Postby Bazda » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:37 am

The electronic is good once you set it up right.
Also so easy to change boost. I have the Gizzmo MSIBC which has 6 boost memory settings with a touch of a button.

Can also have an over boost functions, so you can program in say 5% more boost for X amount of seconds.

But I also love the manual tap setup, never had any issues. Ramps up as fast as possible and holds rock solid boost.
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Postby tsoob » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:23 am

iOnic wrote:lol thirded. EBC's really complicate something that doesn't need complicating.........A good external wastegate + a good boost tap = rock solid boost control and simplicity.


as long as you using BRANDED (turbosmart, tial, GFB)
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Postby IH8TEC » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:24 pm

tsoob wrote:
iOnic wrote:lol thirded. EBC's really complicate something that doesn't need complicating.........A good external wastegate + a good boost tap = rock solid boost control and simplicity.


as long as you using BRANDED (turbosmart, tial, GFB)


Not necessarily. mine isn't one of those BRANDED ones, and i dont have any issues, never have, probably never will.
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Postby blitza » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:48 pm

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anyone made a spacer plate for a manifold?

Might try using this on the caldina.
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Postby steve murch » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:30 pm

like anything you get what you pay for
as for the masterpower,well i can put you onto the last 6 customers( in a month and a half) ive hard to replace all the internals with good parts and they would have a different opinion for those that have posted
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Postby Akane » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:23 am

Hi Steve, can you tell me what I can upgrade my Suzuki Wagon R wide Turbo's turbo with, while retaining the factory manfold and downpipe? Or am I wasting my time?

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Postby steve murch » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:22 am

it should be a HT06-4C
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they are abit of a pain cause hitachi dont do parts so would have to use a comp wheel from a 3k or similar,rebuild parts bearings etc arnt a problem to get.
is it worth it? dont see why not, is yours a 1.0 or a 1.3?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:27 am

Akane wrote:Hi Steve, can you tell me what I can upgrade my Suzuki Wagon R wide Turbo's turbo with, while retaining the factory manfold and downpipe? Or am I wasting my time?

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Postby Bazda » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:09 pm

steve murch wrote:like anything you get what you pay for
as for the masterpower,well i can put you onto the last 6 customers( in a month and a half) ive hard to replace all the internals with good parts and they would have a different opinion for those that have posted


Thats very odd, Masterpower provide a 1 years warranty. And if anything goes wrong you go back to them and they will fix it.
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Postby Py7h0n » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:22 pm

Yeah I have nothing but good things to say about MasterPower turbos either. I am using their GT45 this season after my mates recommendation (he's run one of their T70's for 3 years without any issues).

Most people who have issues with MasterPower turbos don't put big enough drains or feeds on them and they die of oil starvation.
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Postby steve murch » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:26 pm

Bazda wrote:
steve murch wrote:like anything you get what you pay for
as for the masterpower,well i can put you onto the last 6 customers( in a month and a half) ive hard to replace all the internals with good parts and they would have a different opinion for those that have posted


Thats very odd, Masterpower provide a 1 years warranty. And if anything goes wrong you go back to them and they will fix it.




three of these guys have gone back to Oliver and he doesn't want to know about it nor supply any parts to fix.
i was asked afew years ago to help him out thru mark at tricky, i asked for all the info about his product and manufacturing specs materials etc and he wasn't forth coming.
i really don't care what anyone uses its there hard earned money to do as they please,some have luck with the cheap stuff and some don't,i cant afford to send jobs around the plant hoping it'll be OK!!!
thus oem or custom made to my standards,
im not the only one the doesn't think that highly of masterpower nor other brands but its up to who's buying and i guess the odds are some off them will work at some point but its not a market im interested in.
im not after more work as i can keep up as it is,i just advise those who want to know whats best for there hard earned money.
what happened with how good the KKR units were?
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Postby steve murch » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:31 pm

Py7h0n wrote:Yeah I have nothing but good things to say about MasterPower turbos either. I am using their GT45 this season after my mates recommendation (he's run one of their T70's for 3 years without any issues).

Most people who have issues with MasterPower turbos don't put big enough drains or feeds on them and they die of oil starvation.




the faults with these units wernt thru install issues they are design faults
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