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Postby Akane » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:00 pm

Just a thought, please don't blame the chinese for making these turbos, but blame the suckers who buy it that keeps them in business.
No "stance", no "hellaflush", none of that bullshit. Nothing but no grip on full boost.
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Postby Adamal » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:45 pm

Unfortunatly, some people just aren't the wiser. Especially when they're knockoffs that are replicated to look like an original product.
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Postby sergei » Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:17 pm

Akane wrote:Just a thought, please don't blame the chinese for making these turbos, but blame the suckers who buy it that keeps them in business.


you are forgetting counterfeit stuff sold as genuine for slightly cheaper than real genuine
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Postby MR2SIK » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:33 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:I think from this point on everyone should stick to the original posters topic.

Any other issues can be discussed in another thread or via pm etc


Posts deviating from that will be removed


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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:39 pm

head that whooshing noise sean?
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Postby 2jayzgte » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:35 pm

How bout the people that distribute and sell this cheap crap to people fully knowing the product is'nt of good standards how bout those people..
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Postby 99gtt » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:29 pm

$850 aint cheap thats what i payed, as far as cheap turbo,s go another $1000 i could have got a genuine garrett . I jumped on the hype around bazdas car doing a 10 sec pass with this turbo and he done 2 seasons of drag racing and apparently had no problems. No worries i know better will definately be buying a genuine item this time round
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Postby Bazda » Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:14 pm

99gtt wrote:$850 aint cheap thats what i payed, as far as cheap turbo,s go another $1000 i could have got a genuine garrett . I jumped on the hype around bazdas car doing a 10 sec pass with this turbo and he done 2 seasons of drag racing and apparently had no problems. No worries i know better will definately be buying a genuine item this time round


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You have killed the seals as you were running a 8mm ID oil feed line!
Im sure any journal bearing turbos would blow its seals no matter the brand with that size line.
I'd suggest you change to the correct size line and it might actually stop it from smoking and you might not need to replace the seals.

Turbo height can also play a part, running the turbo really low and not having an adequate drain will also cause this problem. We had this problem on a 4agte using the same turbo, installed a oil suction pump to the drain and resolved the smoking issues.

Search google and you will find people run oil feed lines from around 1.6mm through to 4mm.

A guy from my work had a starlet turbo with a T25 Garrett turbo, was smoking crazy, he replaced the seals and lasted for about 1000km until it smoked crazy again, until I asked him what size oil feed he was running and it was like 6mm+. Made him a restrictor to go inline and it cured the problem.

Also I'm not saying at all that the Chinese turbos are awesome. Majority of them are pretty crap. I was only supplying 1 type and 1 type only as I found these to work well :). + The cost price of the turbo I was selling is far more than the retail price of the ones you see on trademe!
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Postby 99gtt » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:10 pm

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I've had one of these turbos on my car for 2 years now, only thing I have had to replace just recently was the piston ring oil seal which was $10 :).[/quote] By bazda
My turbo doesnt blow smoke , because the oil leaks on the out side and burns on the exhaust housing, Not to be an ass but when you sold these they were the shit and now you say they are chinese . If i remember your add on trade me you advertised them as kkk , superior to the other chinese rubbish on trade me.
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Postby Paulio » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:39 pm

The golden rule is as always, you get what you pay for.

Ive always thought buying a second hand quality unit and getting it rebuilt is the next best option to a new quality one?

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Postby tsoob » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:51 am

not_paul_from_waiheke wrote:The golden rule is as always, you get what you pay for.

Ive always thought buying a second hand quality unit and getting it rebuilt is the next best option to a new quality one?

Paulio


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Postby 2jayzgte » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:04 am

Its hard to beat brand named or OEM turbo's as they will have been through alot of product testing whereas the cheaper versions would have lucky to gone through any.

I saw earlier in this thread 99tt that you got 20,000 km outta of your first chineses cheapy if that were me I'd be spewing..I've been beating on my OEM Hitachi CT 12 Bs for near on 8 years now at 1.3 bar and just had to get them freshend up by Mr.Murch last year but before this they were pretty much indestructable now thats what I call a good product.
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Postby Akane » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:03 pm

2jayzgte wrote:I saw earlier in this thread 99tt that you got 20,000 km outta of your first chineses cheapy if that were me I'd be spewing..


Exactly, my geniune Garrett has been raped over and over again, drag days, a lot of"drifting/hill climbs" and a mechanic shop managed to U-pipe the oil drain and drive it for 10km's with smoke pissing out the exhaust, and it's still going strong (after I fixed the u-pipe oil drain).
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Postby Py7h0n » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:15 pm

Yet I had a genuine Garrett GT35R (brand new) a couple of years ago that lasted less than 6months.

Every manufacturer has it's faults - Don't get me wrong they make great turbo's but remember all manufacturers have faults.
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Postby 2jayzgte » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:25 pm

Py7h0n wrote:Yet I had a genuine Garrett GT35R (brand new) a couple of years ago that lasted less than 6months.

Every manufacturer has it's faults - Don't get me wrong they make great turbo's but remember all manufacturers have faults.


Yes I'm sure they do have problems but at least you have some sought of recourse whereas with this other crap you may aswell just chuck it straight in the bin.
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Postby JustinSpiderholden » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:57 pm

Mate had excally the same problem

Brought a genuine brand new garret gt25/40 and got 3 laps of taupo in before it seized, tried to get it replaced under warrenty but garrett didn't want to know.

said driver replaced that turbo with a cheap ass china turbo and 2 years later it still going strong.

Just becasue your paying heaps doesnt nessicary mean its better.

IMO

Quite often a product is only as good as the person who has installed it.

If you buy a $400 dollar version of a 2K product don't expect it to work like a 2K version expect it to work like a $400 dollar version as thats what you paid for it.
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Postby audi man » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:15 pm

My 2cents well every one knows my car and how hard i push it, for the past 3 years i have been running with a masterpower t70 p trim making well over 500+rwkws with no problems whats so ever, the car spends alot of time on a dyno running the turbo to its max and it still holds in there, and i have lost count how many times my car as been down the drag strip and still it holds in there, all i am saying is you can get a good turbo for little cash.
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