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Postby tsoob » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:07 pm

Gonad wrote:I'd tell him sorry but piss off, he could have done anything to it on the way home.

As long as you didnt mislead him you should be sweet. Avoid small claims court if possible, its an absolute crock of shite, talk to Adydas (cliff) about this regarding a boat a few years ago, he knows the ins and outs.

Although he is a 16 y.o drop kick, sometimes these kids parents are the ones pushing things along, so watch yourself.


not sometimes ALWAYS mate, I have had to deal with a few like this in the last couple of years.

as i said bro be nice and tell him you dont want his car :D
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Postby sergei » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:19 pm

I had similar incident, when I sold my Suzuki Sepia (it wasn't blown in this case) Guy changed his mind and made up a story that his friend had an accident and needed an urgent operation. I told him to GTFO and in NZ ACC covers that sort of shit.
I also told him, if you changed your mind, I will give you details of another person that offered me $100 more but I needed to drop it off to warf (and I had no time for that).
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Postby dnalunchie » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:50 pm

Appreciate all the help guys, I sent him a text reminding him (politly) that he had signed an agreement as I said before and he hasnt replied since then.... think maybe he was just blowing smoke, still I wasnt too impressed as the money from that sale is now sitting in my room in the form of a new 40inch lcd lol :P
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Postby S T E A L T H » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:39 pm

lol the worst thing you can expect is to have his mum/dad ring you and try to either gulit-trip or intimidate you into refunding it. Legally as others have said he hasn't got a shit show.

Chances are he was giving it the good proper thrashing over the crown ranges

and no there isn't an official subaru agent there but most mechanics are "subaru specialists" on account of 18% of registered vehicles in central otago being legacys.
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Postby Sick Puppy » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:10 pm

Offer him $500 for it :D
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Postby KwS » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:26 pm

Real pity about the car, was a damn fine example. Should go there, find him, and beat his head in for treating it like that.

i hate the latest generation of hoodie wearing twats that have no idea about anything, especially the law, or mechanical sympathy.

I agree with all the others, he has NO leg to stand on. He signed the sheet, which indicates it was sold to him in a condition that he was happy with. He inspected it himself, and if he wasnt happy with it inspection he did, he should have paid for a professional to inspect it.

Tell him to GTFO and DIAF.
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Postby dnalunchie » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:24 am

KwS wrote:Real pity about the car, was a damn fine example. Should go there, find him, and beat his head in for treating it like that.

i hate the latest generation of hoodie wearing twats that have no idea about anything, especially the law, or mechanical sympathy.

I agree with all the others, he has NO leg to stand on. He signed the sheet, which indicates it was sold to him in a condition that he was happy with. He inspected it himself, and if he wasnt happy with it inspection he did, he should have paid for a professional to inspect it.

Tell him to GTFO and DIAF.


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Postby samlloyd » Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:29 am

dnalunchie wrote:
KwS wrote:Real pity about the car, was a damn fine example. Should go there, find him, and beat his head in for treating it like that.

i hate the latest generation of hoodie wearing twats that have no idea about anything, especially the law, or mechanical sympathy.

I agree with all the others, he has NO leg to stand on. He signed the sheet, which indicates it was sold to him in a condition that he was happy with. He inspected it himself, and if he wasnt happy with it inspection he did, he should have paid for a professional to inspect it.

Tell him to GTFO and DIAF.


love it :P


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Postby wishihadaTE27 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:08 am

smithers wrote:
dnalunchie wrote:
KwS wrote:Real pity about the car, was a damn fine example. Should go there, find him, and beat his head in for treating it like that.

i hate the latest generation of hoodie wearing twats that have no idea about anything, especially the law, or mechanical sympathy.

I agree with all the others, he has NO leg to stand on. He signed the sheet, which indicates it was sold to him in a condition that he was happy with. He inspected it himself, and if he wasnt happy with it inspection he did, he should have paid for a professional to inspect it.

Tell him to GTFO and DIAF.


love it :P


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Postby xsspeed » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:12 am

lol, was gunna ask the same thing
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Postby deaf_rattle » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:19 am

i am pretty sure you cant sell a car as is where is.

You can sell a rolling shell with engine though :wink:
under the consumer guarantees act any item should last a resonable length of time.. even second hand items.

With vehicles though its abit of a grey area, as only the new driver knows how the car was driven after purchase. (it can be argued that driving a vehicle hard like a race car seriously reduces life expectancy of engine)

Then again, it could be argued that half a trip to wanaka is a reasonable length of time for a subaru. :lol:

Just sit back and wait to see if anything comes of this, if it does you will need a lawyer.

Or go visit your local citizens advice bureau.
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Postby tsoob » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:54 am

yeah u can sell a car as is where is as long as its stated that on the invoice (in this case piece of paper)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:59 am

http://www.rotherhams.co.nz/index.cfm/L ... _Privately

http://www.consumer.org.nz/reports/car-buyers-rights

more facts less bs in this thread is needed!

those two links above spell out you your position. I would forget about any further action from that tosser.


p.s. a few oil drops after a rebuild is bs!! unless it's British.
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Postby deaf_rattle » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:03 am

Mr Revhead wrote:http://www.rotherhams.co.nz/index.cfm/Legal_Library/Legal_Library_1/Tips_on_Buying_a_Car_Privately

http://www.consumer.org.nz/reports/car-buyers-rights

more facts less bs in this thread is needed!

those two links above spell out you your position. I would forget about any further action from that tosser.


p.s. a few oil drops after a rebuild is bs!! unless it's British.
If I'd had a rebuild done and it leaked oil I'd take it straight back with an angry face demanding "fix. now."


that is interesting. obviously been awhile since ive looked at those.


Exceptions

The CGA does not apply to:

* motor vehicles of a kind ordinarily acquired for a commercial use – eg, trucks, buses
* motor vehicles sold at auction
* motor vehicles sold by a competitive tender process
* motor vehicles sold for re-sale or re-supply – eg, importer selling to another motor vehicle trader
* motor vehicles sold privately.
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Postby Gonad » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:17 am



Haha - quote "However, if the motor blows up while you're driving the car home, you'll be very lucky to see your money again."

Or in this case - if the motor blows up while you're thrashing the car home, and the previous owner has bought an LCD, sucks to be you.
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Postby Akane » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:32 pm

We all stand on the seller's side of things, but I had experience on the buyer's side of things, namely the engine rebuild by Gleye & parlane out in Takapuna.

Longs story short, a fair bit of cash thrown in the engine, I asked him if it'll hold 400hp, he said yeap. 1000kms later my engine throw a big end.

I went to them and asked them what's up with that, firstly they were nice about it, after they inspected it, they just claimed I was a boyracer and "blew it up" and told me to GTFO and DIAF, pretty much what you guys are telling the kid now.

Further inspection by me was that they sand blasted the engine and didn't clean the sand out.

My point is that, no matter what, the kid won't get his refund, that's how things roll. So you should be in the clear.
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Postby kim0663 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:34 pm

i hope the little rat @#$%$# sees this thread.
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Postby GX61 Mark II » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:04 pm

deaf_rattle wrote:i am pretty sure you cant sell a car as is where is.

You can sell a rolling shell with engine though :wink:
under the consumer guarantees act any item should last a resonable length of time.. even second hand items.

With vehicles though its abit of a grey area, as only the new driver knows how the car was driven after purchase. (it can be argued that driving a vehicle hard like a race car seriously reduces life expectancy of engine)

Then again, it could be argued that half a trip to wanaka is a reasonable length of time for a subaru. :lol:

Just sit back and wait to see if anything comes of this, if it does you will need a lawyer.

Or go visit your local citizens advice bureau.


Consumer Guarantees Act does not apply to this transaction.

Sale of Goods Act does, but I don't think there is anything you need to worry about in this case.
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Postby GX61 Mark II » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:08 pm

Akane wrote:We all stand on the seller's side of things, but I had experience on the buyer's side of things, namely the engine rebuild by Gleye & parlane out in Takapuna.

Longs story short, a fair bit of cash thrown in the engine, I asked him if it'll hold 400hp, he said yeap. 1000kms later my engine throw a big end.

I went to them and asked them what's up with that, firstly they were nice about it, after they inspected it, they just claimed I was a boyracer and "blew it up" and told me to GTFO and DIAF, pretty much what you guys are telling the kid now.

Further inspection by me was that they sand blasted the engine and didn't clean the sand out.

My point is that, no matter what, the kid won't get his refund, that's how things roll. So you should be in the clear.


Whilst this is a terrible thing that happened to you, this has very little relevance to the situation being discussed here, as you were dealing with a company 'in trade' you have many more options for recourse compared to this private sale.
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Postby Akane » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:45 am

GX61 Mark II wrote:
Akane wrote:We all stand on the seller's side of things, but I had experience on the buyer's side of things, namely the engine rebuild by Gleye & parlane out in Takapuna.

Longs story short, a fair bit of cash thrown in the engine, I asked him if it'll hold 400hp, he said yeap. 1000kms later my engine throw a big end.

I went to them and asked them what's up with that, firstly they were nice about it, after they inspected it, they just claimed I was a boyracer and "blew it up" and told me to GTFO and DIAF, pretty much what you guys are telling the kid now.

Further inspection by me was that they sand blasted the engine and didn't clean the sand out.

My point is that, no matter what, the kid won't get his refund, that's how things roll. So you should be in the clear.


Whilst this is a terrible thing that happened to you, this has very little relevance to the situation being discussed here, as you were dealing with a company 'in trade' you have many more options for recourse compared to this private sale.


When it comes to car mechanical stuff, there's no clear cut black and white if things goes wrong. He'll be in the clear because 1) he got the kid to sign the contract/agreement, and 2) It blew up on his hands, just like how mine blew up on mine, so he holds all responsibility.
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