toyodiy.com?

[gasman]

whats happened to toyodiy?

it doesntload up for me. have they gone down since toyota caught wind of what they were doing or something?

[Adoom]

whats happened to toyodiy?

it doesntload up for me. have they gone down since toyota caught wind of what they were doing or something?

Site might just be down for maintenance...

[ee904age]

Yeah it hasnt worked for me since about Thurs. And i really need it now!

[GT4-SUM]

works for me

[gasman]

yea its back up now, thank god.

[GTTpower]

Wouldnt have thought Toyota really cared about it, probably makes the parts departments job easier

[DeeCee]

Site news:

6 December, 2009
The diagrams are no longer available on this site. For reasons that are beyond our comprehension, Toyota of North America kept harrassing our ISP about them. It seems that they are really interested in quick profits from new car sales, so it is in their best interest that old cars fall apart asap.

The progress of course cannot be stopped, and the diagrams are available on numerous other websites around the world, so we feel this change will not have a significant negative impact on Toyota DIY-ers. For example google something like 78-01 ACCELERATOR LINK 78111C, and you shall find it. Contact us if you need help or have any other question on this subject.

FAQ: Q: Why do images still work for me? A: This is a caching issue. It is temporary, and mentioning it on public forums will expedite cache expiration. So don't do that.

Looks like people will just have to DL the EPCs

[GTTpower]

Ah shit that blows. One of the best Toyota site ever just got its wings clipped .

[sergei]

Stupid copyright laws (DMCA and such) is the cause of all this stupid shit.
In soviet russia when you bought lada you also get a tool kit and complete workshop manual

Now I don't care about IP laws, they are non-sense as part numbers should be readily accessible to public in my opinion (as means of maintaining the main product). Having these diagrams increases the value of the vehicles as it is easier to repair. In fact second hand sales increases sales of new vehicles because of reputation and brand loyalty.

But Americans, being Americans, will sue anyone who questions their elevated sense of self righteousness.

$&#$% I hate Americans.

[DeeCee]

well, i just had a look at my car, GT4A and it works fine And its not a caching issue as I don't use toyodiy as I have the EPC on this computer.
Maybe its just american owners that are being prevented?

[rolla_fxgt]

I see a lawsuit coming Toyota's way very soon. I remember something about this in the recent past where Toyota tried to stop other mechanics having access to their workshop manuals and diagrams etc. They were told to give them access or stop selling cars in the US, its something to do with some law that means ability to repair a vehicle must be given to everyone upon request, if you manufacture or sell vehicles in the US.

[Mr Revhead]

Toyota are incredibly anal about brand protection
notice how you can't buy a toyota flag? And most flag makers won't make one with out permission, which they can't get...

[FLAWLES]

Now I don't care about IP laws, they are non-sense as part numbers should be readily accessible to public in my opinion (as means of maintaining the main product). Having these diagrams increases the value of the vehicles as it is easier to repair. In fact second hand sales increases sales of new vehicles because of reputation and brand loyalty.

sorry i have to dissagree on that ( but dont get me wrong i use that site alot with my chaser to figure things out and get oem parts through toyota ) but you must here me out

i can understand completly from a retailers/dealers point of view, the parts inderstry is so cut throat now days you can take a oem part number for fast moving parts ( your bread and butter ) and cross reference it to aftermarket items such and tie rod ends and filters etc so on and so forth

so if you have this info available to the joe public you can take a oem number to any place like repco or e-nets etc and cross ref it and either get cheap parts and info

with old stuff its not that bad as they have been around for ages, its the new/late model stuff that you have to worry about

its called cutting other pples lunch

i know it happens everyday but from a gen supplier point of view its wrong and genarating lost income,
it sounds far fetched i know but in the heavy automotive industry that i am in its a war zone with aftermarket parts and information, i could go into an example of a customer not wanting to pay a extra $5 for a oem hyd filter so took the oem part number and x-refed it, ended up hurting him big time for a saving of $5 he lost round about 6g with a hydrive pack rebulid.........i know this is nothing to do with the web site but its an example of what can go wrong in a sense

dont get me started about workshop tech manuals/info again in my indus that shiit is worth its wait in gold

do you get where im coming from?

[FLAWLES]

Toyota are incredibly anal about brand protection

alot of manufactures are these days
the tractors we sell are the only three tractor brands that still make all there old parts from the 1940s and there are piss all if no after market parts bar the odd filter
they dont on sell any desgins and or info

still have all there old sand castings etc

[sergei]

But allowing companies to do that is allowing them to shift from car manufacturing to car parts manufacturing and selling cars at loss, at low quality so they can profit from car parts.

Just look at printers these days. Printers are cheaper than replacement cartridges. The printer manufacturers sell crappy printers (development stopped about 10 years ago, all the R&D stuff has been fired) to sell ink. Ink is more expensive than gold these days.

Another issue is that car parts are sold with extreme profit margins, if you assemble car from car parts bought from Toyota it will cost 100 times more (if not 1000) than pre-assembled brand new vehicle.

They can drop prices and still make money and eradicate competition naturally without any law suits, as the higher quality parts will be cheaper than knockoffs.

[gasman]

Enough talking about what having the parts catalogue up and business and profits, lets talk about how we can copy everything on that site onto out hard drive so that when it does stop working for use we can still use it.

[neo]

When I get around to it..

I'd been planning on making a VMWare machine with the Jappa EPC catalog installed, spit it out as a torrent and were all happy

VMware because it wont install on a drive > 4G, and is a PITA to install. add some virtual CD-roms and wa-la

[Mr Revhead]

I still have a complete set of EPC cd's from before the last update that took off most of the older jap cars.
Also general and euro cd's
Can send them to you neil if you want to upload them
better than downloading off that site

[FLAWLES]

But allowing companies to do that is allowing them to shift from car manufacturing to car parts manufacturing and selling cars at loss, at low quality so they can profit from car parts.


Another issue is that car parts are sold with extreme profit margins, if you assemble car from car parts bought from Toyota it will cost 100 times more (if not 1000) than pre-assembled brand new vehicle.

They can drop prices and still make money and eradicate competition naturally without any law suits, as the higher quality parts will be cheaper than knockoffs.

this is true
only in some case's i can think of where oem as been cheaper than aftermarket ( automotive )
wholesalers do make a massive killing on parts, i done nissan parts a few yrs back and they wernt to bad compared to the likes of holden and ford etc

at the end of the day it is interlectal ( sp? ) property of the manufacture
all the workshop info/parts info that i have is still owned by SAME-Duetz fahr/lamborghini even tho we have paid a hefty price for it

[Trls250s]

Lucky i got the part number for my diff circlip when i did...