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Postby rollas22 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:50 pm

Ok long story short..

i discovered a plate on trademe while i was at work to buy...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =275180491

I bid an funny enough i WIN!! woohoo

I then check the questons + answers after winning to see this :

hey! these plates are not yours to sell. why havnt you sent them back when i sold you the car? its illegal to evan try sell them. your better of sending them back and im going to seek legal advice aswell as a police report. for anyone who buys these plates they are still in my name so you wont be able to register them anyway. sammy124 (130 ) 11:47 am, Tue 9 Mar
Answer: Hey! you sold us the car as a working car it had to be towed back. we are selling the plates to pay for repairs buy them back off us if you want them, or you are welcome to have the whole car back for what we paid for it. The car and plates don't belong to you anymore ii is perfectly legal for us to sell them you scumbag 2:25 pm, Tue 9 Mar


So what I want to know is,

Can i go threw with buying these plates???
how can I check ownership on these plates? (there registered to a 91 corolla wagon)

much info/help be much appreciated..

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Postby Rick » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:19 am

There is links off the carjam website where you can pay to find out the current owners of the vehicle.

http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=YRMAMA+
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Postby Bling » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:18 am

Isn't that Brads old plate? That got stolen previously already 8O

I would say you'd have to check with plates who owns the plate.
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Postby dragonx » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:42 am

BZG|Bling wrote:Isn't that Brads old plate? That got stolen previously already 8O

I would say you'd have to check with plates who owns the plate.


i beleive that you have to check with p plates as well, if you sell or buy a car with p plates, it has to mention that the p plates come with the car, they are seperate and AFAIK not included in the sale unless actually stated (just because they are on the car doesnt mean they are included)
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Postby Leon » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:39 am

run away. Nothing but trouble will come of this purchase.
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Postby Adamal » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:42 am

BZG|Bling wrote:Isn't that Brads old plate? That got stolen previously already 8O


I think one of his A's was a 4 or something?

Situation as I can gather from the comments:

sammy124 sold a car to plate seller stating that it was in working order.
Car was NOT in working order, and had to be towed back.
Plate seller is looking to sell the plates and make the money for the repairs.


Theres 2 possible outcomes here:

1. The car was sold with a registration plate change, so the plates do legally belong to the plate seller. A mistake on sammy124's behalf,

or

2. The car was sold, but the registration was not sold with the car, meaning that the plate seller isn't legally entitled to sell the plates, no matter what they think.

My guess is situation 2 probably applies here.
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Postby offensive » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:06 am

why'd he leave the plates on the car when he sold it?
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Postby Bling » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:17 am

You would have to wonder :lol:
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Postby Adamal » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:06 pm

Pretty sure that you have to have plates on a car, even if its being towed? Unless its on like a flat deck or something
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Postby edwagon » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:20 pm

Leon wrote:run away. Nothing but trouble will come of this purchase.

THIS

Even if it turns out that you are legally in the right, you'll have one or other party upset about the deal and the plates will be a political football. You'll probably get your car damaged or plates pinched in the not too distant future

Or if they report the plates stolen - you could get dragged in for theft while they sort out the trouble between the other two - sure - will work out in the end, but hows that for a way to spend an afternoon.......

I'd forget about it.
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Postby fuel » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:00 pm

when I bought a car with p plates I had to do a separate change of owner for the plates, otherwise the previous owner still had the rights to the plates.
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Postby Adamal » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:30 pm

fuel wrote:when I bought a car with p plates I had to do a separate change of owner for the plates, otherwise the previous owner still had the rights to the plates.


Snap. RUN THE F*** AWAY!!!!!
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Postby Bling » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:51 pm

Adamal wrote:Pretty sure that you have to have plates on a car, even if its being towed? Unless its on like a flat deck or something


His point was why not put crappy standard plates on before sale :wink:
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Postby Adamal » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:28 pm

I dunno, ask Brad :P
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Postby 1I1 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:50 pm

edwagon wrote:Or if they report the plates stolen - you could get dragged in for theft while they sort out the trouble between the other two - sure - will work out in the end, but hows that for a way to spend an afternoon.......

I'd forget about it.


And potentially they could try to do you for knowingly buying stolen goods?
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Postby Cakky » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:46 pm

buy them, make an awkward triangle of confusion and then refuse to co-operate with anyone on the whole situation :P
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Postby NILPSI » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:12 pm

Those are definately Brads old plates

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However he sold them a few years back, and to think just last week I was thinking about deleting all these old pictures I have.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:41 pm

Haha, ok - those are my old plates, which I sold/swapped with fx gt on here some years back. Not the ZROGRP ones which got nicked.

Long story short - Sam, you're shit outta luck there man, even though they are yours, unless you can prove the person stole them then they own them. I had the same issue with a certain caryard in Chch trying to sell me back my plates even though the PP ownership papers state they're mine. Possesion being 9/10ths law or some crap like that.
In my case, as I knew this particular caryard tended to hang PP's on the wall in their office not registered to a vehicle, I simply had them remade and have them back legally in my possession.
So pretty much, Callum, legally you're in the clear if you do get them...its up to you whether you actually go through with the purchase or not.


Also even though it was a satanic pile of shyte, I do miss my shiny blue car :cry:
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Postby solitaire » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:31 pm

Dell'Orto wrote:Also even though it was a satanic pile of shyte, I do miss my shiny blue car :cry:
:lol: Is there a story there or is it just because working on an mr2 feels like satan is fighting you every step of the way?
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Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:09 pm

Nah it just had a random electrical gremlin, which would cause it to die randomly now and then. Pretty sure it was a dud earth somewhere, but I hate chasing electrical issues :lol:


Been contemplating getting another one actually :oops:
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