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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:51 am

Yeah it definitely is if they stay there.
That is afterall the pretty much the first time that car has moved under it's own power.
One would hope that by the next race they have found a second or 10.....
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Postby fivebob » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:14 am

Not many surprises in Qualifying, should make for an interesting race when they're all on full tanks ;)

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Pos  Driver         Team                   Q1        Q2        Q3       
 1.  Vettel         Red Bull-Renault       1:55.029  1:53.883  1:54.101 
 2.  Massa          Ferrari                1:55.313  1:54.331  1:54.242
 3.  Alonso         Ferrari                1:54.612  1:54.172  1:54.608
 4.  Hamilton       McLaren-Mercedes       1:55.341  1:54.707  1:55.217
 5.  Rosberg        Mercedes               1:55.463  1:54.682  1:55.241
 6.  Webber         Red Bull-Renault       1:55.298  1:54.318  1:55.284
 7.  Schumacher     Mercedes               1:55.593  1:55.105  1:55.524
 8.  Button         McLaren-Mercedes       1:55.715  1:55.168  1:55.672
 9.  Kubica         Renault                1:55.511  1:54.963  1:55.885
10.  Sutil          Force India-Mercedes   1:55.213  1:54.996  1:56.309
11.  Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth      1:55.969  1:55.330
12.  Liuzzi         Force India-Mercedes   1:55.628  1:55.653
13.  Hulkenberg     Williams-Cosworth      1:56.375  1:55.857
14.  de la Rosa     Sauber-Ferrari         1:56.428  1:56.237
15.  Buemi          Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:56.189  1:56.265
16.  Kobayashi      Sauber-Ferrari         1:56.541  1:56.270
17.  Petrov         Renault                1:56.167  1:56.619
18.  Alguersuari    Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:57.071
19.  Glock          Virgin-Cosworth        1:59.728
20.  Trulli         Lotus-Cosworth         1:59.852
21.  Kovalainen     Lotus-Cosworth         2:00.313
22.  di Grassi      Virgin-Cosworth        2:00.587
23.  Senna          HRT-Cosworth           2:03.240
24.  Chandhok       HRT-Cosworth           2:04.904
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Postby thornz » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:14 am

Was interesting qually, it seemed alot of the cars in P3 didnt do a full on attack lap, seemed more interested in saving the tyres for the race tomorrow. Will be interesting to see how it all pans out.
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Postby fivebob » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:25 am

Pitting strategies will be interesting.

While there will be a benefit from new tyres, track position will be compromised if they pit early, at least for the first stop. I would expect to see the leading drivers waiting as long as they can before the first stop, or at least till they have one pitstops advantage over the midfield cars, I doubt that anyone who pits and comes out lower than 10th will have a good race.
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Postby JustinSpiderholden » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:21 am

Was an intresting Quaily

Rosberg has defantly taken it to Schui, Not much between Hamilton and Button either, the cheat duct didn't seem to help the Mclaren that much either

I think if Vettel can keep his head he got a great shot at a win, but Massa and Teflonso will be close

Roll on 11pm tonight
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Postby thornz » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:41 am

JustinSpiderholden wrote:Was an intresting Quaily

Rosberg has defantly taken it to Schui, Not much between Hamilton and Button either, the cheat duct didn't seem to help the Mclaren that much either

I think if Vettel can keep his head he got a great shot at a win, but Massa and Teflonso will be close

Roll on 11pm tonight


Try 1am tomorrow morning :(
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Postby fivebob » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:10 pm

JustinSpiderholden wrote:the brilliant innovative thinking duct didn't seem to help the Mclaren that much either

I think you might find that marvellous piece of engineering won't give that much in qualifying, but it will help in gaining momentum on the straights for that late pass under brakes ;)
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Postby Adamal » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:11 pm

fivebob wrote:
JustinSpiderholden wrote:the brilliant innovative thinking duct didn't seem to help the Mclaren that much either

I think you might find that marvellous piece of engineering won't give that much in qualifying, but it will help in gaining momentum on the straights for that late pass under brakes ;)


It could be easily mistakable for a device designed to cool off the drivers balls.
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Postby thornz » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:27 pm

Had anbody found a good technical article on this duct/wing? I don't really understand at the moment how it works exactly.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:50 pm

simply seems to be an wee intake in the nose cone that funnels air along the cockpit tunnel to an exit that flows over the rear wing.
in the cockpit it seems there is a hole the drivers can block with thier knee that blocks off that flow which alters the way the air flows over the rear wing.
Doing that loses them what would seem to be a decent amount of downforce. downforce = drag. so it gives them a top speed advantage.
Cunning. And 100% legal.
And I would guess harder to introduce mid season than a new diffuser.
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Postby 2jayzgte » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:22 pm

Fortyone.co.nz wrote:Thornz - It makes it interesting! Despite the top teams throwing hissy fits by always having to pass the slower, less skilled, less funded back markers, there's nothing wrong with them being there! If they were all within 1 second of each other we'd have another season of processions - no one wants that!

One of the ITV commentators said, and I agree: These are the best drivers in the world (sic) - what's wrong with them overtaking the slower drivers!

And if that means someone looses a spot and finishes second (or third, fourth, etc) then great - more action!


Yep Im not sure how teams that are over 5 seconds a lap can justify themselves as being serious at the top level of motorsport.But if there going to allow it I suppose its all good.I seriously don't see the point there is just no way they can be competitive by the end of this year or if ever.

I think this was mentioined earlier but they must be just taking the mickey and to be fair there has to be some sought of standards kept or next thing you no any man and his dog will able to enter F-1.
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Postby Audi » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:04 pm

Vettel on pole! Man I can't wait for this season. Could be his year, so many great drivers racing though!
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Postby GTTpower » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:56 am

Bit of an average race imo. Definitely was a case of the cars limping to the finish rather than being pushed hard. Feel sorry for Vettel, definitely had it over the rest of the field.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:06 am

Was not expecting a ferrari 1, 2!
But by the sounds of it Vettal was in until it broke.... And once again peeing all over Webber.
Unfortunately it seems what we all feared has come true, no refueling = no racing :cry:
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Postby fivebob » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:36 am

Yawn...Looks like F1 racing this year is going to better for insomniacs than sleeping pills :cry:

With there being little advantage in new tyres, well not enough to allow for a pitstop at least, everyone is pitting at the same time as there's not a chance to put in some hot laps on low fuel to get ahead. Unless there is some circuit where tyre wear is an issue I don't think we'll be seeing more than one stop per race from the top runners :roll:

Bring back refuelling!!!
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Postby Adamal » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:57 am

Back in the old days, there wasn't none of this "Pressurized vacuum feedback auto shutoff fueling rig" business.
It was done by my with gas cans, pouring into the tank until it was full! And they had to walk 15 miles in the snow just to get to the track with that fuel! Then, because it was so cold, they had to warm it up with an open flame!
AND YOU NEVER HEARD OF THEM COMPLAINING!
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Postby fivebob » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:02 am

Adamal wrote:AND YOU NEVER HEARD OF THEM COMPLAINING!

After standing next to a screaming supercharged BRM-16 you never heard anything...ever again :lol:
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Postby Adamal » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:03 am

Hahaha they don't engineer them like that anymore. God that was an awesome engine...
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:05 am

correction: Awesome sounding engine. When it would make a sound that is....
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Postby Adamal » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:11 am

What can I say? I like engines which are out there :P

I mean, a 1.5 litre V16?!?! That produces 410kw?!?!? Crazy!
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