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Postby Babz » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:40 pm

Hey guys. Just wanted to know what your thoughts are on which engine i should implant into my 1982 Carina TA63. It will be used as a daily driver with trips to the tracks every now and then. I have trying to decide but just can not make up my mind. They all seem to have plus and minus.
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Postby shihad » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:42 pm

well if its daily driven keep it reliable so go 3tgte keep it simple.
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Postby Babz » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:45 pm

But for the money involved in sourcing a 3tgte and getting it up to spec wouldnt i be better of transplanting a newer motor? I am wanting around the 250 wheel hp mark and all three can achieve this easily with a couple of upgrades.
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Postby Babz » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:47 pm

Is the 3sge beams motor any good? meaning will it perform just as good as a s13 sr20det?
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Postby wde_bdy » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:51 pm

Dollar for dollar results, put in the SR.

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Postby Babz » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:55 pm

thats what i figured out but damn i love toyotas. Does anyone have experience with altezza beams 3sge being transplanted into old rwd toyotas? does it go good? appreciated any info that is given to make my decision.
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Postby Quirky » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:01 pm

Theres an AE86 with a 3sge Beams.
Its a track only car running 150kw atw.
Sounds pretty sweet.

Although an SR20det would be quicker, more reliable, and plenty of aftermarket support. Go for the SR.
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Postby wde_bdy » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:04 pm

If you prefer Toyota power I would actually go with the 3T-GTE, its a much cheaper fitment job as it bolts in and the money saved can be used for a rebuild with forged pistons.

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Postby shihad » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:07 pm

depends on your budget i guess. sr better engine in everyway but they did come out with 3t turbos so thats what I would use.i reckon you could buy a 3t and rebuild it for the same price as buying an sr.
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Postby YeMs » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:10 pm

wde_bdy wrote:If you prefer Toyota power I would actually go with the 3T-GTE, its a much cheaper fitment job as it bolts in and the money saved can be used for a rebuild with forged pistons.

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yeh but they are a dog - speaking from experience.

sr would be your best option by far. or a 4agze??
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Postby QikStarlie » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:15 pm

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Postby strx7 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:36 pm

altezza motor and 6 speed + turbo and aftermarket ecu
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Postby shihad » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:02 pm

strx7 wrote:altezza motor and 6 speed + turbo and aftermarket ecu

defiantly the coolest but if the goal is 250hp at the wheels bit of an overkill and $$$
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Postby Soiled » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:21 pm

http://z4.invisionfree.com/lexusaltezza ... opic=10816

Will probably struggle to get the 250hp at the wheels you'd be aiming at, but they do sound pretty sweet at 8k in old cars.

Most are around 118-130rwkws in standard trim, but very reliable.
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Postby fuel » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:23 pm

you wont get 250hp at the wheels with a Beams 3S-GE cheaply. After a set of quads and outboard injectors maybe, it'll probably be 180hp at best at the wheels with a decent intake and headers/exhaust.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:37 pm

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Postby Truenotch » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:08 pm

Phil - there are a few standard Beams with G4's and quads that have pulled over 200HP in NZ... But 250 would take quite a bit more development.
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Postby d1 mule » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:23 pm

3ts are a step in the wrong direction.

and i dont like cross breeding

so beams and 6 speed

i have a mate with one in a ae85 with quads and a link G4 its 200 HP at the wheels and more than fast enough as a rack car let alone a street car.

or 4agte, cheap easy been done a million times before so there is heaps on info, mine makes 230whp and its pretty standard just ht18/t3 450cc injectors and a link. more than fast enough
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Postby tsoob » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:55 pm

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Postby Bling » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:01 pm

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