any one in NZ make billet cranks for 3sgte /ge

The place for all technical car discussions. If you haven't already, read our Disclaimer first!

Moderator: The Mod Squad

Postby RunningRich » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:11 am

Mr Revhead wrote:Hell my 1963 Imp has a stock forged crank!


But how do you know it is forged? :lol:

This thread has to win the award for the most posts of opinion/half-truths stated as fact.
Richard
Toyota Celica GT-Four Group A (sold) :-(
Alfa Romeo 75 Twinspark (sold)
BMW 530i E61 Touring Motorsport :D
http://gtfour.supras.org.nz
User avatar
RunningRich
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1044
Joined: Mon May 27, 2002 1:46 pm
Location: Auckland

Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:14 am

:lol: Coz I looked at it.
But even before I could look at it my research told me it was via factory documents :P
http://www.imps4ever.info/tech/kuzmicki.html
Being the subject of E-whinges since 2004 8)

http://www.centralmotorsport.org.nz/home

Image
User avatar
Mr Revhead
SECURITY!
 
Posts: 24635
Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 pm
Location: Nelson

Postby Dell'Orto » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:56 am

And more on the original topic, Colliers in Levin told me they can do billet cranks if you so wish, not cheap though! I imagine Precision Engineering in Auckland could also do them (They do quad rotor eccentric shafts)
1988 KE70 Wagon - Slowly rusting
1990 NA6 MX-5 - because reasons
2018 Ranger - Because workcar
1997 FD3S RX-7 Type R - all brap, all the time
OMG so shiny!

Quint wrote:Not just cock, large cock.
User avatar
Dell'Orto
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 17494
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:07 am
Location: Straight out the ghetto, Lower Hutt

Postby Rookie » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:55 am

To throw a spanner in the mix;

Forged cranks are better than billet.

Discuss...
Rookie
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:09 pm
Location: Turangi

Postby Celica RA45 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:10 pm

gee this got out of hand real quick
dellorto how much are we talking about to get these made up
Celica RA45
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 308
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:55 pm
Location: melbourne ,aust

Postby Dell'Orto » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:19 pm

Was a couple of years ago I spoke to him about it (was for some sort of Fiat race car from memory) but was in the vicinity of $7k 8O
1988 KE70 Wagon - Slowly rusting
1990 NA6 MX-5 - because reasons
2018 Ranger - Because workcar
1997 FD3S RX-7 Type R - all brap, all the time
OMG so shiny!

Quint wrote:Not just cock, large cock.
User avatar
Dell'Orto
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 17494
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:07 am
Location: Straight out the ghetto, Lower Hutt

Postby Rookie » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:03 pm

If you are really interested in a custom crank I would give Bob Denson of Denco Engineering a ring.
http://www.finda.co.nz/business/listing/p634/denco-engineering-1987-ltd/

I can't personally recommend his work as I have never used it, Friends have recommended him though. If his pre 65 Anglia is anything to go by he is pretty good
Rookie
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:09 pm
Location: Turangi

Postby Dell'Orto » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:20 pm

Denco pistons are heavy as all hell if thats any indication
1988 KE70 Wagon - Slowly rusting
1990 NA6 MX-5 - because reasons
2018 Ranger - Because workcar
1997 FD3S RX-7 Type R - all brap, all the time
OMG so shiny!

Quint wrote:Not just cock, large cock.
User avatar
Dell'Orto
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 17494
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:07 am
Location: Straight out the ghetto, Lower Hutt

Postby Celica RA45 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:33 pm

hi guys found a few people in the states that can make them as well
thanks to every 1 imput
Celica RA45
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 308
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:55 pm
Location: melbourne ,aust

Postby Grrrrrrr! » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:41 pm

Rookie wrote:To throw a spanner in the mix;

Forged cranks are better than billet.

Discuss...


forged crank = grain flows the correct way everywherre
Billet crank = grain flows correct way through journals but not through the throws/couterweights
Reality: A nasty hallucination that is caused by excess blood in the alcohol stream.
Grrrrrrr!
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2566
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:21 pm
Location: Souf Orkland

Postby 4agtepwr » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:57 pm

Denco cranks are pretty cool, very nice work, we have ground a few at work before, Id say there rather pricey though, pretty sure there made of 4340 high tensile billet from memory but you would be best to ring him and have a yarn, Im guessing there not cheap as there hand made and one off's though
Current ride: Sweeeeet Hiace. 3L power!!!!
Project: AW11 4agte, 410kw 555hp on 26psi
11.1 @ 125.5mph with more to come, As seen in Aug 2011 Performance Car, haha
viewtopic.php?t=61383

Huge thanks to Phil from NZEFI, Al and Brendan from Caraid and Hamish from Sheifield Cresent Auto
User avatar
4agtepwr
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 595
Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:51 pm
Location: Chch

Postby DFECTED » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:05 am

Image

from the left, cast iron, cast steel, forged.

What everyone is getting confused about is induction hardened or nitrided cast steel cranks from factory

If you do a google image search cast steel and forged steel crankshafts you end up at the scat website and yes, there is a obvious difference
User avatar
DFECTED
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 411
Joined: Fri Sep 27, 2002 12:59 pm
Location: Lower Hutt

Postby xsspeed » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:16 am

Celica RA45 wrote:hi guys found a few people in the states that can make them as well
thanks to every 1 imput


Purely out of interest - does no-one do it in Australia?
xsspeed
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 3946
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:56 pm
Location: Auckland

Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:12 pm

DFECTED wrote:Image

from the left, cast iron, cast steel, forged.

What everyone is getting confused about is induction hardened or nitrided cast steel cranks from factory

If you do a google image search cast steel and forged steel crankshafts you end up at the scat website and yes, there is a obvious difference


Is that a wide forging mark on that middle one? Hard to tell from those pics. One on the right and been fully machined if it's forged.
At a glance (can't be sure from net pics) I'd have said those are Cast iron, forged then cast steel + machined or billet. Whichever it is I'd guess that it's had quite a bit more machining than the other 2
Being the subject of E-whinges since 2004 8)

http://www.centralmotorsport.org.nz/home

Image
User avatar
Mr Revhead
SECURITY!
 
Posts: 24635
Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 pm
Location: Nelson

Previous

Return to Tech Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 34 guests