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by **badassmofo** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:32 pm

Hey
I've just got a Silvertop 4age in my possession, and am going to be rebuilding it over the next 6-8 months or so, it will be a process, but Im looking forward to it.
I'm wanting to know who makes forged 4age internals, as I dont think the standard ones will last too long. Is there anyone who will do a decent price as I dont really want to be going to TRD to buy some.
Also, what head work would anyone recommend that I do to it while it's off?

Website · by **offensive** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:29 pm

my mate has just rebuilt his silvertop, he hasnt used any forged internals at all, as long as the car is tuned and wont run lean or detonate, genuin toyota parts should be fine.

he is using arp rodbolts tho.

by **badassmofo** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:36 pm

I realise that, but Im looking to attach a large turbo to it, or something interesting...
Does anyone know where I can get forged internals? and Decompression gaskets?

My profile · by **20v FX-GT** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:46 pm

Wouldn't the easiest thing be to get some GT-Z internals?

Website · by **offensive** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:55 pm

hhmm, silvertop crank supposed to be the same as a gtz, rods im not sure but the pistions wouldnt have the 5 valve cutouts, for proper forgies 4 it you would be looking at a grand up im guessing, ive never seen the price for them

by **RedMist** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:32 pm

You might want to talk to MisterTwo. He's just rebuilt a 20 valve and made a custom turbo installation. I personally think the engine is much better off being left NA, but it's horses for courses I guess. Its easier and less expensive to convert a ZE to turbo.

by **badassmofo** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:12 pm

thanks for that guys,
I'm also looking for a workshop manual that supports the 20v silvertop 4age, I cant find anything and the guy at the bookstore I talked to said they dont make them, but he gets about 2 enquiries a week!!!

Anyone with some insight?

by **Distrb** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:15 pm

neo's got one coming, but you better get in line :!:

by **badassmofo** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:57 pm

neooooooooooooooo

Where are you getting it from?! :lol:

by **~SlideWays~** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:12 pm

I think there is a site with lotsa online scanned manuals i will ask my brother for the address and see if there is any slivertop 20v stuff, mmmkay?

by **RedMist** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:21 pm

IF your talking about the blacktop manual....

www.onthenet.com.au\~paulp\blacktop
I've never seen a silvertop manual online. This blacktop manual was stolen from a SA copy.

by **badassmofo** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:36 pm

Thanks heaps!
I'd say the blacktop wouldnt be that much different to the silvertop workshop manual wise? oh well, only one way to find out...
But if anyone can find the silvertop one, I'd be stoked!

by **mister2** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:10 pm

i reckon that you should spend the money (unless you have lots and lots of it) on a computer.
silvertop will (imho) be good for ~15psi on the stock bottom end with appropriate fueling.

now i know what i do, this would probably what i would have done first...

then spend the money on the rebuild.

nick

by **badassmofo** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:47 pm

I've actually decided that I might stay N/A... Toda Forged pistons look expensive, but could be a good option, probably do all the valves etc, try and make the N/A 20v as extreme as possible...

My profile · by **20v FX-GT** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:18 pm

Distrb wrote:neo's got one coming, but you better get in line

When did this line start? I hope I'm in it! Andrew, I'll race you for your place in the que :lol:

by **Distrb** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:02 pm

20v FX-GT wrote:
Distrb wrote:neo's got one coming, but you better get in line

When did this line start? I hope I'm in it! Andrew, I'll race you for your place in the que

ok you're on!!! you drive your gold golf, and i'll go "borrow" daddys one!!

this line started when i asked neil if i can have a look at it when it arrives..... he said after him, so i'm first in line........

(i created the damn thing

)

technically its not a line, because i am the only one in it :lol:

My profile · by **20v FX-GT** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:58 pm

Sorted then, catch me if you can!

-+=gon-zo-crazy=+- · by **neo** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:25 pm

drum roll... and the answer is...

Dumb toyota, they hava a japaneese manual at head office BUT they will only translate parts of the book as required, and they wont supply the whole manual (or a copy!)...

SOOOO we need someone who works at toyota head office!!!!

I have the setting for the shims and timing as a datasheet from toyota thus far...

The other option is to find someone in Japan to get one for us.. As they would be able to get it from "the local toyota shop"... where as in NZ they have f'all info!...

really boils my nuts, that none of the toyota agents know ne thing about the engine yet are unwilling to find out!

by **Distrb** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:42 pm

20v FX-GT wrote:Sorted then, catch me if you can!

consider yourself run down and passed

My profile · by **20v FX-GT** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:58 pm

neo wrote:I have the setting for the shims and timing as a datasheet from toyota thus far...

Hey Neil, can you mail me that info please. I thinks its about time the shims got looked at in the FX, they can be a little noisy at times but I've noticed a lot of silvertops are...

fxgt20@yahoo.com

Thanks

Matt

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