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Postby magweal » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:28 pm

Biofuel any good 4 a BT 4age? What would it do 2 the internals?
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:38 pm

Define what you mean by biofuel and maybe you'll get an intelligent answer.
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Postby MAC_HATER » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:41 pm

At best you will see an increase in fuel consumption

At worst your fuel system will disentegrate and will leak like a seive

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Postby DexGT » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:26 pm

I thought biofuel was basically home made diesel substitute , so prob no good in a petrol motor 8O :lol:
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Postby matt dunn » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:30 pm

If your talking E85 or similar,then yes and no.

Will probably make more power with it,
but will require more maintence,
and use more gas.
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Postby GTsedan » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:41 am

And if E85 I'd be less worried about what it will do to the internals and more concerned with it eating every piece of plastic/rubber fuel line/fitting. There is a reason certain vehicles are sold as 'E85 suitable'
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Postby Kiwi-Corolla » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:03 am

E10 would be alright, but your fuel economy will still drop. Used it once (by accident because a Gull station all of a sudden switched to E10 one day and I didn't notice until I went to hang the nozzle back up) and noticed that my mpg dropped. Avoid using it completely if you can.
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Postby magweal » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:40 am

Thanks Kiwi-corolla Thats what i was looking at running in it. And should have really said that at the start but hey its a great convo starter
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Postby magweal » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:42 am

And when yall say the fuel economy will drop yall mean the wrong way ie use more fuel?
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:47 am

magweal wrote:And when yall say the fuel economy will drop yall mean the wrong way ie use more fuel?


Yes. there is less energy per litre in ethanol than petrol.
But the higher octane may in some cars mean the timing doesn't get retarded and you get better fuel economy. Probably better off sticking to regular 98 to avoid having the ethanol eat your fuel lines and seals.
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Postby Flannelman » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:04 am

Funny, as i managed 734km to a tank on 98 Gull Force 10. My best ever fuel useage...

Thats a silvertop with newly fitted blacktop cam...
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:34 am

I'd be interested to see if you can replicate that
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Postby xsspeed » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:14 am

fuel will now be leaking out lines and seals, so never get the economy again :troll:
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Postby blindnz » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:40 am

xsspeed wrote:fuel will now be leaking out lines and seals, so never get the economy again :troll:


haha...


I used E10 in my Mivec Lancer once and got very average fuel economy, its not leaking out yet though.
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Postby RedMist » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:52 am

They have subvertantly introduced E10 to all fuel in the UK. No such issues with leakage.
My one experience with E30 led me to believe I was consuming more fuel. MPG dropped to 2.11km/l in the Twizel 250. However I was at WOT for longer periods of time. It definately ran cooler and had a less hastled exhaust noise (didn't sound on the edge of detonation, sounded more comfortable).
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Postby Adoom » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:22 pm

RedMist wrote:They have subvertantly introduced E10 to all fuel in the UK. No such issues with leakage.

Most of the cars over there are a lot more modern than here. Maybe they handle the ethanol better than older cars do.
When I was there, it was very uncommon to see anything older than 10 years.
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Postby MAC_HATER » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:49 pm

Flannelman wrote:Funny, as i managed 734km to a tank on 98 Gull Force 10. My best ever fuel useage...

Thats a silvertop with newly fitted blacktop cam...


km's to a tank is more or less useless info - too many variables - thats why idiots on trademe use that to try and pass off their V8 Falcon off as "economical" :P

if you can get us a specific Litres per 100km then thats much better :D
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Postby DexGT » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:31 pm

E10 will do less to fuel lines than the benzine they top up 95 with , us old guys remember when they first introduced 95 unleaded and the benzine did eat fuel lines . only old cars with garden hose fuel lines were affected really :lol:
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Postby Flannelman » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:00 am

to please the masses, 6.53L/100km. (734km travelled with 48L used)

Going by the fuel guage, 125km per quarter.

And 3rd long trip this month, passed 250km and only 1/4 of a tank down. Thats repeatable to me :D
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:03 am

Using the Toyota fuel gauge is about as accurate as a butt dyno

I'm sure you now how to do proper fuel economy readings :wink:
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