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Postby gurutasker » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:36 am

BzzzzR wrote:-Toyota Feilder Z


Any reason you are looking at the wagon over the Corolla RunX-Z?

I quite enjoyed it as a daily driver, plenty of room to fold the seats down, easy to get 600km out of the tank (if you keep your foot out of it :lol: )
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Postby BzzzzR » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:00 am

Thanks guys- food for thought

Its 15k per year, but that will also need to cover insurance and services etc so want to spend 10k and ideally keep 5k per year to cover those costs.

Looked at Euros to, but seem to be a big unknown in regards to repairs and service costs seem to be much higher. Would consider a BMW or Audi if I knew they could be cost effective.

Have also come up with a suggestion from the wife, since I have 4 kids it would be handy to have another 7 seater, so thought the Toyota Ipsum might be a contender

Have ruled out 3.0 Subaru due to my heavy foot and resulting fuel consumption.

My Mazda MPV is horrible on gas (480k max to a tank) and also took my brothers well sorted Legnum VR4 to the Hawkes bay last week - was $100 each way on gas and it is only a 600k return trip, so taking that into account I want to really have good fuel economy in case i want to do road trips etc
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Postby dnalunchie » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:53 am

BzzzzR wrote:Thanks guys- food for thought

Its 15k per year, but that will also need to cover insurance and services etc so want to spend 10k and ideally keep 5k per year to cover those costs.

Looked at Euros to, but seem to be a big unknown in regards to repairs and service costs seem to be much higher. Would consider a BMW or Audi if I knew they could be cost effective.

Have also come up with a suggestion from the wife, since I have 4 kids it would be handy to have another 7 seater, so thought the Toyota Ipsum might be a contender

Have ruled out 3.0 Subaru due to my heavy foot and resulting fuel consumption.

My Mazda MPV is horrible on gas (480k max to a tank) and also took my brothers well sorted Legnum VR4 to the Hawkes bay last week - was $100 each way on gas and it is only a 600k return trip, so taking that into account I want to really have good fuel economy in case i want to do road trips etc


how about a wrx wagon like this

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-ca ... 368842.htm

my mate had one and on the open road it got 500kms from a 55ltr tank and around town it got 400-450

They are really nice to drive too and dont suffer from the reliability issues of the earlier models
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Postby Leon » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:46 pm

If I understand you correctly, in that you are saying you will own the car at the end of two years, and would then sell it to put phat monies in pocket. Then I'd suggest pick something that is holding value really well.

So, not a BMW, Ford, or a Peugeot. I could be wrong, but they appear to depreciate like they're on fire and rolled in dog poop.

Corolla, Mazda3 would seem to be less depreciating on average.
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Postby BzzzzR » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:52 pm

Leon wrote:If I understand you correctly, in that you are saying you will own the car at the end of two years, and would then sell it to put phat monies in pocket. Then I'd suggest pick something that is holding value really well.

So, not a BMW, Ford, or a Peugeot. I could be wrong, but they appear to depreciate like they're on fire and rolled in dog poop.

Corolla, Mazda3 would seem to be less depreciating on average.


Correct, I would own the car, so it was my thought exactly - Buy a car that is fun etc but will hold value and recoup some free money 8)
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Postby dnalunchie » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:03 pm

get the wrx :)
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Postby gurutasker » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:11 pm

BzzzzR wrote:Have also come up with a suggestion from the wife, since I have 4 kids it would be handy to have another 7 seater, so thought the Toyota Ipsum might be a contender


7 seater?

That limits your options some-what.. a modern diesel turbo? But doubt you wil find one for the price you're looking at. 7 seaters and economy don't really go well together if you're looking at older vehicles from what I've seen..
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Postby BzzzzR » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:12 pm

gurutasker wrote:
BzzzzR wrote:Have also come up with a suggestion from the wife, since I have 4 kids it would be handy to have another 7 seater, so thought the Toyota Ipsum might be a contender


7 seater?

That limits your options some-what.. a modern diesel turbo? But doubt you wil find one for the price you're looking at. 7 seaters and economy don't really go well together if you're looking at older vehicles from what I've seen..


Toyota Ipsum, Honda Stream, Mazda MPV are all 7 seaters that you would find in my price range - Do I want to have another boring people mover or a fun semi performance car is the real question
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Postby BzzzzR » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:14 pm

dnalunchie wrote:get the wrx :)


Just not sure if I would be able to tame my heavy right foot - the likely outcome would be huge fuel bills and high chance of speeding tickets, which would not go down too well with the wife :lol:

Although I do like the look of them (Just not the bug eye version)
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Postby dnalunchie » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:45 pm

BzzzzR wrote:
dnalunchie wrote:get the wrx :)


Just not sure if I would be able to tame my heavy right foot - the likely outcome would be huge fuel bills and high chance of speeding tickets, which would not go down too well with the wife :lol:

Although I do like the look of them (Just not the bug eye version)


if you can tame your right foot then they are no worse than most other late model 2ltrs and you have the power there when you need it
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Postby duddley » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:11 pm

Reading up on Subclub and my 3litre legacy uses the same amount of fuel as the 2 litres but still has enough grunt to have a little fun.
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Postby rollaholic » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:14 pm

if you want a 7 seater you could do worse than a stream.

no manual ones afaik, but they go ok in 2L (for a people mover anyway) and being a bit more car like (based on a civic i believe) than van like (odyssey, MPV etc) they handle semi ok too.

thats what i would buy if i wanted 7 seats anyway, at least in your price range.
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Postby 20mm spanner » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:56 pm

Given what you can afford, you can potentially look at a budget of $35,000.00 on a finance lease, put 10% deposit/first payment, and have a balloon repayment at the end of the 36 month term of $10,500.00 (30% of purchase price). This would work out to be approx $840 per month. You can work on a higher balloon repayment at the end of the term, but this would be subject to kilometers and condition of vehicle.

This giving you a newer vehicle, which will be more reliable, and come with a manufacture warranty. After three years, depending on how far you have travelled you should easily be able to sell the vehicle for more than the balloon payment.

The other thing you may want to consider, would be your new employers expectation of a vehicle, if seeing clients/lots of travel etc.
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Postby Zitchu » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:01 pm

dnalunchie wrote:
BzzzzR wrote:
dnalunchie wrote:get the wrx :)


Just not sure if I would be able to tame my heavy right foot - the likely outcome would be huge fuel bills and high chance of speeding tickets, which would not go down too well with the wife :lol:

Although I do like the look of them (Just not the bug eye version)


if you can tame your right foot then they are no worse than most other late model 2ltrs and you have the power there when you need it


Agree, mine is fine around town, current tank I have done just over 450km I think and its now in the bottom quarter. They can be suprisingly good on fuel. Same model as the red one from the TM link.
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Postby AE82 FXGT » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:35 pm

gurutasker wrote:That limits your options some-what.. a modern diesel turbo? But doubt you wil find one for the price you're looking at. 7 seaters and economy don't really go well together if you're looking at older vehicles from what I've seen..


2011 Territory fills all of the above except price.
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Postby TRDWGN » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:59 pm

Mazda 6 MPS ticks most boxes, another worth considering is a aurion touring yes its auto and V6 but they are reasonably economical and luxurious

Another option would be a VW Passat, either fwd 2.0 FSI turbo (same motor as golf GTI) or 4wd 3.2 v6 both with clutchless manual paddleshift/auto box

Spend $20k get a 2005+ modern safe car, you wont regret it ever
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Postby rx7guy » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:30 pm

VW Passat - but with the W8 engine :D
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Postby AE82 FXGT » Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:17 pm

TRDWGN wrote:Mazda 6 MPS ticks most boxes


Swiss Army knife of cars, I love mine, bit of a sleeper as everyone thinks it's just a normal Mazda6. Not afraid to leave it around town as I was with my RX8, and gets nice fuel economy (for a 4wd 2.3 turbo) about ~460km per tank around town, which could get better if I kept it off boost more often.
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Postby dnalunchie » Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:33 pm

AE82 FXGT wrote:
TRDWGN wrote:Mazda 6 MPS ticks most boxes


Swiss Army knife of cars, I love mine, bit of a sleeper as everyone thinks it's just a normal Mazda6. Not afraid to leave it around town as I was with my RX8, and gets nice fuel economy (for a 4wd 2.3 turbo) about ~460km per tank around town, which could get better if I kept it off boost more often.


you have one of the cool early series one too which means no lame boost reduction in 1st and 2nd
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Postby Bling » Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:17 pm

Traction does make it easier to get off the line though Lunchie. Have you found the later models lacking? Because I haven't :twisted:

Either way, thread is confusing. Might want something to cart 4 kids, might want something fun. Which is it? :P
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