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Postby Boost_4_Life » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:33 pm

As Im into rallying I go thru a truckload of tyres. I have a good deal with local tyre guys but it would be so much more convenient if i was set up myself...

Originally i looked at second hand tyre changing machines, but now decided that a good quality tyre iron and a more manual type machine (ie basically just a stand to hold the rim with a pole in centre) would be ideal.

I've looked on the net heaps but apart from tardme having these manual setups, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/wheels-tyres/other/auction-494576922.htm, where do you buy Good Quality tyre irons etc? Who sells that stuff? In Waikato area btw.

Reason I ask on here is there are tyre supply fellas floatin around? You guys must know?
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Postby Jdawg » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:14 pm

you could try Stocks http://www.georgestock.co.nz
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Postby Bling » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:19 pm

What's wrong with the tyre iron that comes with the trademe setup? I have one like it and it does the trick.
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Postby holden_fan2005 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:08 am

I've changed a few tyres at work with our basic machine and they were a real prick to change, they seem to have a super stiff/strong bead.

Would imagine it would be even worse by hand??
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Postby Boost_4_Life » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:09 pm

holden_fan2005 wrote:I've changed a few tyres at work with our basic machine and they were a real prick to change, they seem to have a super stiff/strong bead.



yer after watching a vid of some dude trying to put one on online i tend to agree!

I think I'll stick with what I do for now, just a pain in the ass to cart a van load of tyres/rims into town and back each time.
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Postby Bling » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:52 pm

I don't even have mine bolted down and have stripped a pile of tyres. Nothing super low profile mind you. Bolted down would be so much easier though. Unless you need them balanced, the manual changer will do the whole lot.

"lube it up" and it works easy
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Postby GDII » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:19 pm

The sidewalls and beads on the gravel tyres I have are much stiffer than the road tyres I have. That would make them harder to change with hand tools. I have never tried to change car tyres before but it can't be that easy.
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Postby cat007 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:12 pm

I'm pretty keen to find out more on these portable tyre changers.

I guess you'd need to make sure it would secured to the ground - or perhaps your trailer or ute?

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Postby cat007 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:16 pm

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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:31 pm

I can do you a deal on a proper tyre machine ;)
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Postby cat007 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:11 pm

Dell'Orto wrote:I can do you a deal on a proper tyre machine ;)


$129 sort of deal?
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Postby Boost_4_Life » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:19 pm

how many moolah brad, pm me.
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Postby dusk93 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:12 pm

How much of a pyromaniac are you? There's many a youtube video of tyres being put on with ether/hairspray/other flammable substance, that way your tool would just need to be for stripping tyres?

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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:16 pm

cat007 wrote:
Dell'Orto wrote:I can do you a deal on a proper tyre machine ;)


$129 sort of deal?


Haha - I'm talking a proper machine! None of this bolt to ground have to work to take the tyre off shit :lol:

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Postby Boost_4_Life » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:50 pm

yup got 3 phase. cheers boss!
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Postby Bling » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:45 pm

GDII wrote:I have never tried to change car tyres before but it can't be that easy.


I've never done a rally tyre, but if I can do a pile of car tyres without even bolting it down.... anyway, i'm not vouching for the machine just saying I found it pretty easy to use for car tyres
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Postby wde_bdy » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:25 pm

Helped my brother do a set of rally tyres in service on a rally when they found the spare rims didn't actually fit on the car. All manual gear (basically a pick axe to break beads, all commercial fleet truck gear etc) so don't know what you guys are whinging about. Stripped tyres off rims before the car came in, they were back out in less than 20 minutes with stripping rims on the car of the rooted tyres (had to run two extra stages when they found the rims didn't fit) then fitted the new tyres. Can't be that hard. :lol:

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Postby allencr » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:25 am

A lot of tire changing problems are caused from thinking that the bead actually stretches and with enough force it'll go on. It will not. Another is ignoring that the valve is holding the bead off the lowest part of the wheel.
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