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Postby Boost_4_Life » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:58 pm

The comparision between a 6cyl turbo and 4cyl NA is just downright funny...
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Postby MAC_HATER » Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:18 pm

just stick the Chipped XR6T engine in the Trueno
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Postby Bling » Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:56 pm

You could probably put it in a bus and still shit on the 20v. I want whatever is being smoked please! :lol:
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Postby dnalunchie » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:52 pm

there are a couple of tuning places in aussie that will bolt on an exhaust, intake and remap the standard ecu in an XR6T and you have 280-300kw for next to nothing.

At the end of the day turbos will always be easier to get more money from but, and this is just my opinion, tuned NA will always be more rewarding/fun.

anyway to the OP

Set of really expensive toda headers (dont bother with cheap ones the stock will be better)

2.5 inch straight as possible exhaust.

cold air intake

lighter flywheel ( I did this to mine and it made a BIG difference)

link ecu

should have you around 110-115kw atw which in a BZG will be really fun.

If you want more then it would be

forged/silvertop rods

cams

Maybe light port and polish.

Probably takes you to 120Kw atw-ish

After that then its just more and more insane cams and perfecting the flow of air in and out of your engine.


These figures are just best guess though as 4ages tend to vary lots in what they produce
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Postby jacobrjett » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:57 pm

i would also say before you start spending money on the expensive stuff change your air filter, spark plugs and spark leads, and i was reading over in one of the other threads that the fuel filter is a very underrated one.

Also, get rid of the intake baffle in your intake, theres a pipe that comes from under your air filter box that goes into a big white container behind the bumper, pull the pipe and white air box out, its a resonator that quietens down the intake noise, i replaced mine with a 2.5" drain pipe and it made it sound a lot more aggressive, im guessing it gained a pony or two but I wouldnt know without a dyno

edit: why tf am i still posting serious answers 5 pages into this clown thread anyway
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Postby Lith » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:14 pm

Have people got as high as 110+kw with just boltons + tuning on a BT 20v? Honest question, have never heard of that high a result - but don't know of anyone doing that combo either.
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Postby Bling » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:36 pm

I haven't heard of it, but it wouldn't surprise me with a good tune and bolt ons. You'd probably get a few kw just by stopping it from dumping fuel in when you put your foot down. No proof, apart from the clouds I see.
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Postby 2LTR Rona » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:41 pm

Install one of these

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Postby Lith » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:42 pm

Ah ok, I've always been a bit curious about how they'd go with quality mods and a decent tune.
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Postby 2LTR Rona » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:54 pm

Lith wrote:Ah ok, I've always been a bit curious about how they'd go with quality mods and a decent tune.


With a decent tune its equivilant to Five women with PMS & we know one woman with PMS is like a hurricane so just image five of them!!!!
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Postby dnalunchie » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:57 pm

I got 106kw atw with a silver top with black top cams, factory headers and 2.5 inch exhaust and a G3 link so with a black top head and aftermarket headers I would say 110-115 is doable
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:14 pm

Yeah a good tune does wonders for them. Stock tune is actually quite bad as far as power goes.
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Postby rollaholic » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:29 pm

what was it making on that same dyno before all that stuff lunchie?
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Postby dnalunchie » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:18 pm

rollaholic wrote:what was it making on that same dyno before all that stuff lunchie?


I only had it dynoed b4 and after the link as when I bought it it had a wolf which no one here could tune

was 92kw atw on the wolf tho. felt very weak up top.
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Postby Luke - BZG » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:35 pm

Luke - BZG wrote:I can't believe we have another 2 page thread of "black top mods help"


Oh how I underestimate the power of 20 valves.
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Postby Bling » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:54 pm

At least we won't get harpooned :wink:
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Postby touge_ae101 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:24 pm

Depends on how dynos read (tend to vary a lot at low power levels) but wouldn't get more than a 5kw increase out of a blacktop with boltons and link (105kw atw good std blaacktop does 100kw atw)

Don't respond well in terms of power readings to mild cams etc but during feel is quite different..wouldn't get more than 110kw from mild cams. 130kw from a blacktop feels like more than 130kw out of a Honda for example....


People stop being unrealistic BTs make shit power nd always Will. stop dreaming of power figures that doesnt mean shit its all about how it drives!
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Postby Luke - BZG » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:57 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:At least we won't get harpooned :wink:


Our cars both share similarities with whales, mine is heavy, and yours is slow.

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Postby Bling » Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:02 am

Whatever Pal, it blows turbo falcons out of the water. :twisted:
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