Where else after VTNZ?

[Akane]

So the expert mechanics at VTNZ thinks there's excessive play on my 2 front struts, they're TEINS which is freshly LVV certified. I asked them what play is there, they said they don't know, just there's play, possibly strut top, but assured me it's not wheel bearing.

Took it home, jacked it up, rocked them 2 wheels hard like it's prom night, there's absolutely NO PLAY, it's tighter than a virgin, so now it's my words against theirs, so who to go to after this? Since wheel play is such a subjective thing, I need some 3rd party hard concrete evidence to tell those experts that they might have gotten it wrong.

Who to go to after VTNZ? No where else, and it's $100 to re-compliance after 28 days for green stickers. Don't wanna go down that road yet again.

[diss7]

Spend the $30 and go to another VTNZ and see if they fail it for the same thing?

[RomanV]

it's tighter than a virgin

Is that why you always sneak out before buying a round of drinks?

P.S. Yeah go back and say "Yeah I fixed it now" and see if you get someone else who isnt a retard.

[STR]

What was the time frame between the cert and the WOF check?
If it wasn't long, maybe give your certifier a call and ask if they can help?
Alternatively, give the NZTA Motor Vehicle Contact Centre a call on 0800 108 809 and ask them what the deal is with contesting an unjust WOF failure.

[strx7]

are the shocks themselves definitily tight in the housing? (get alot of competition cars have this issue where the collar which holds the shock into the housing comes fractionall loose allowing the shock to move in the housing) and if its in your suzuki, check the top strut mounts themselves.

[Stott69]

Whats the green sticker for? Have you got more than your cert plate?

[Akane]

the original green sticker is for a noisy exhaust.

So I got everything done all in 1 go, properly.

Certified for coilovers + rims, and modified engine.

Certified for exhaust.

My cert plate has been put on just this morning.
It's the MR2.

I don't know if I can re-check elsewhere, it took 4 guys to check my car, and 30mins, they checked the engine over and over and over again.

Checked the wheels for a good 15mins.

I'll go check with my mechanic first, and then give my certifier a call, because he checked the wheels before and it was top notch.

Failing that I'll give another $30 to go elsewhere, and then give the 0800 number a call.

Thanks guys.

[Mr Revhead]

Try checking the shocks with the wheels on the ground

[Akane]

Try checking the shocks with the wheels on the ground

Gave everything an "OK' shake, no problem whatsoever, can't really grab the shock nicely since there's not much clearance but it's looking good.

Also, can someone elighten me the rules between firewall / latches? No damages within 150mm within a lock latch, is that correct?

Thanks.

[rollaholic]

you could try a suspension specialist, perhaps even a tein agent.

if its sweet, you can ask if the people at VTNZ can call to discuss.

in my experience just saying to the lovely people at VTNZ that so and so has offered to speak to them about it is enough to get a tick in the appropriate box.

[gt4dude]

i had a vtnz guy try to argue that his db tester showed over 100db after he himself sent me to neil fraser, which passed me at about 86db, i just showed the cert papers, and insisted that neil fraser passed it just fine with his equipment done 30 mins prior, and there was no arguing with that...

[DVSMOTORSPORT]

Jack the car up so the wheels are off the ground and put a bar under the wheels, lift it up and down, then Id say you will find the play they are talking about.

[Akane]

i had a vtnz guy try to argue that his db tester showed over 100db after he himself sent me to neil fraser, which passed me at about 86db, i just showed the cert papers, and insisted that neil fraser passed it just fine with his equipment done 30 mins prior, and there was no arguing with that...

I went to Neil Fraser for the whole package, passed at 96dB.

Jack the car up so the wheels are off the ground and put a bar under the wheels, lift it up and down, then Id say you will find the play they are talking about.

That'll be the play called suspension working correctly, but I'll do that after it comes back from the panel beaters, they had a huge moan about a couple of holes in the firewall for wiring.

[edwagon]

Jack the car up so the wheels are off the ground and put a bar under the wheels, lift it up and down, then Id say you will find the play they are talking about.

That'll be the play called suspension working correctly,

Facepalm

If you'd taken any notice of how those idiots at vtnz test the suspension then you'd know that this is one of the first useful posts in the thread

[Akane]

Jack the car up so the wheels are off the ground and put a bar under the wheels, lift it up and down, then Id say you will find the play they are talking about.

That'll be the play called suspension working correctly,

Facepalm

If you'd taken any notice of how those idiots at vtnz test the suspension then you'd know that this is one of the first useful posts in the thread

Sigh

I've DONE that test already, it's WORKING PROPERLY, I'll do it YET AGAIN with a BIGGER PIPE + get my mechanic to check with me when the car COMES BACK FROM THE PANELBEATERS.

When I do that test, the wheels move up and down according to the supposed suspension travel, no clinks clonks no play no 5mm wiggles.


It's okay I don't blame you, only if you knew the history of the MR2.

OK I'm pissed now, I'm gonna do it the 2nd time, with a tiny ass power bar that I have, just to be sure, before sending the car off to the panelbeaters

Here's a video: http://youtu.be/-PKFPuwVIn4
No play except suspension travel, and when I'm not holding the camera with my other hand I was checking for play. None whatsoever.

yes your comment has bothered me THAT much.

Video #2: http://youtu.be/0KMsBQ0pcIw
See if you can hear any looes bits.

[diss7]

If you think you are applying any real world forces that the suspension will see with that pissy little power bar, you are an idiot.

Just go back to the VTNZ, say you have been to your mechanic and he has fixed it.

If they come in and say there is still play, ask to be shown what they have an issue with.

Stop being a bitch about such a minor thing, making a big deal about it on internet forums.

I would've either done the above, or I would've gone straight to another VTNZ and see if they have the same issue. Not gotten in a huff, driven home and shaken the wheel, convinced that there is nothing wrong and post about it on the internet.

Waa waa NZer's are so dumb. It's your posts that are annoying bud.

I would be taking the attitude of "Hey, what's actually the issue, can you show me" you seem to think they are making the issue up?

If it's one thing more annoying than ignorance, it's arogance. You're a classic example of this.

[FST4RD]

I had an issue with vtnz with my mini. They put it on rollers to check the brakes, front disc brakes fine, rear drums the guy said weren't powerful enough. Didn't know what he was talking about since minis only run about 5-10% to the rear brakes, rest to the front. Explained this to him, he wouldn't have a bar of it and failed the car. Next day took it to a mechanic that knew about minis and he passed straight away.

Wasted my time and money at a place I thought knew what they were doing.

[Akane]

If you think you are applying any real world forces that the suspension will see with that pissy little power bar, you are an idiot.

sigh. That's why I said I will re test with a bigger bar. But the principal of play should not be affected as play happens when the suspension is not acting any force in any direction. But I will use a bigger bar anyway. Your argument is null and void.

Just go back to the VTNZ, say you have been to your mechanic and he has fixed it.

If they come in and say there is still play, ask to be shown what they have an issue with.

I asked. They said they don't know. They said there's play. Another round about argument that leads to nowhere

Stop being a bitch about such a minor thing, making a big deal about it on internet forums.

I would've either done the above, or I would've gone straight to another VTNZ and see if they have the same issue. Not gotten in a huff, driven home and shaken the wheel, convinced that there is nothing wrong and post about it on the internet.

I asked what's next, then a forum super hero like yourself came along and start spinning what you've just spun. Whose the idiot? Keep this thread clean please

Waa waa NZer's are so dumb. It's your posts that are annoying bud.

oh ffs. Vtnz is kinda stupid. You stripped the vt out of vtnz

I would be taking the attitude of "Hey, what's actually the issue, can you show me" you seem to think they are making the issue up?

If it's one thing more annoying than ignorance, it's arogance. You're a classic example of this.

just die plz.

[Akane]

I had an issue with vtnz with my mini. They put it on rollers to check the brakes, front disc brakes fine, rear drums the guy said weren't powerful enough. Didn't know what he was talking about since minis only run about 5-10% to the rear brakes, rest to the front. Explained this to him, he wouldn't have a bar of it and failed the car. Next day took it to a mechanic that knew about minis and he passed straight away.

Wasted my time and money at a place I thought knew what they were doing.

I would avoid them as well but I have been told I have to go to vtnz if its green stickered.

the car is with the panel beaters right now for a firewall repair. Will get it back next week sometime. And then will call Neil Fraser and work my way up.

[DVSMOTORSPORT]

Lol, Ive just remembered why I had a break from this forum for a few years.