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Postby Bazda » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:25 am

Recent meeting of dads little Escort up against much faster competition!

Gopro 3 White edition camera, but its been edited twice to make it a smaller format.

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Postby ~SlideWays~ » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:55 am

Bugger me that thing goes around corners well. Still leafs springs at the back?

I've only watched the first bit (at work...) but is the yellow and blue Mk1 the 'Metalworks / Metalsomething' one that enters Targa a lot?
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Postby Bazda » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:12 pm

~SlideWays~ wrote:Bugger me that thing goes around corners well. Still leafs springs at the back?

I've only watched the first bit (at work...) but is the yellow and blue Mk1 the 'Metalworks / Metalsomething' one that enters Targa a lot?


Yep still leaf springs, whole lot of standard ones packed together to make it stiffer lol. Nothing trick at all with the suspension on this.
Always tell him to mod the suspension and the thing will fly if he does!!

Yep thats the 3L Nissan turbo Proctor Clark Escort.
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Postby Lith » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:53 pm

Love watching footage for this car, but surely:
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Postby matt dunn » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:06 pm

Is that on a wet track?
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Postby Bazda » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:32 am

matt dunn wrote:Is that on a wet track?


Nope. Spitting at beg but very slightly. It was dry as a bone on the track.
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Postby Mr Ree » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:53 am

Awesome footage. I love watching David Vs Goliath clips :)
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Postby dnalunchie » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:09 pm

how does such a small NA engine make so much power? must be like 10000:1 compression
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:23 pm

Coz its a Cossie :twisted:

300hp has been achieved by Cosworths and even a few Pintos for a long time.
Albeit highly tweaked ones!
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Postby CAMB01 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:51 pm

dnalunchie wrote:how does such a small NA engine make so much power? must be like 10000:1 compression


Formula one engines are small just with many cylinders, and lots of revs
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Postby STR » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:24 pm

Loved watching that car tear it up! Looked like the RX-7 and Proctor had to use pit entry to get past.

I had a good view from the R1 rescue ute.
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Postby Bling » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:07 pm

dnalunchie wrote:how does such a small NA engine make so much power? must be like 10000:1 compression


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Postby dnalunchie » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:12 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:Coz its a Cossie :twisted:

300hp has been achieved by Cosworths and even a few Pintos for a long time.
Albeit highly tweaked ones!


how many cly and how much displacement is it?
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Postby Bazda » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:14 pm

Its 2.4L, everything on it has been custom engineered. None of the parts you can buy off the shelf lol.

The thing is, it revs ALOT and its still making power at 9800rpm, would continue to make power if you kept reving it. But it has HEAPS of torque down low. Notice how he launches, not many RPM and 1st gear goes to near 100kph as well.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:33 pm

dnalunchie wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:Coz its a Cossie :twisted:

300hp has been achieved by Cosworths and even a few Pintos for a long time.
Albeit highly tweaked ones!


how many cly and how much displacement is it?


Standard cosworth and pinto displacement is 2ltr. Pintos were also 2.3.

Making power is easy. As bling said just add $. Then add revs :lol:
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Postby matt dunn » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:50 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:
Standard cosworth and pinto displacement is 2ltr. Pintos were also 2.3.

Making power is easy. As bling said just add $. Then add revs :lol:


Yeah just add $$

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358bhp @ 8400rpm / 250lb-ft @ 5800rpm

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A guy I do a bit for down here has a smith and jones engine in an Escort also.
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Postby Bazda » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:50 am

Smith and Jones claim that power.
Recent engine they did went into another mk2 which was in the pc mag and in the other vids I posted in the multimedia section.

Dads car blew past it. All the internals on dads have been designed and work out by him, same with the head. He just uses their casted block and head.
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Postby jr007 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:10 am

Bazda wrote:All the internals on dads have been designed and work out by him, same with the head.

$$$ don't buy that, only experience.
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Postby Bazda » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:17 am

matt dunn wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:
Standard cosworth and pinto displacement is 2ltr. Pintos were also 2.3.

Making power is easy. As bling said just add $. Then add revs :lol:


Yeah just add $$

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358bhp @ 8400rpm / 250lb-ft @ 5800rpm

http://www.smithandjonesengineering.co.uk/engines.html

A guy I do a bit for down here has a smith and jones engine in an Escort also.


We also know that guy who has the Smith & Jones eng down there. In a Zak speed MKII Escort?
Dad could easily pass that down the straight and was 2s a lap faster on much smaller tyres.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:42 am

The Zakspeed is a genuine one, didn't think it had an engine like that. I thought he'd restored it to as close to orginal as possible. Pretty cool car
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