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ae111 6spd to 5spd swap ?

Postby Jonno2002 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:42 pm

tried search couldnt find anything, do the 5spd swap in where the 6spd was ? axels and mounts the same etc etc ?
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Postby magweal » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:04 pm

to my Knowledge you'll need the 5spd mounts for a ae series and I think the shalfs are the same as the c56 5spd(black top box). Whats up with your 6??
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:10 pm

Toyodiy doesn't list separate parts for 5 spd & 6 spd so chances are high they are the same
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Postby tsoob » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:28 pm

I have a 5speed from an ae101 trueno? has everything there mounts shafts the whole lot
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Postby touge_ae101 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:58 pm

will be sweet. passenger side top mount is a little bit different but should work fine.

also may need to look at ecu as 6 speed ecu pulls a bit of timing on gear change to shelter the weaker 6 speed box.
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Postby Jonno2002 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:05 pm

sweet thanks, its for a mate, his box is getting tired and he can get a 5spd cheap so why not.
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Postby headshotnz » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:42 am

Im pretty sure the mounts are the same, not sure about shafts however.
I would recommend getting a c56 (preferb c56-04c (LSD)) going from a c160 to a c52 will be very disopointing.
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Postby 1I1 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:48 pm

Front and rear mounts will be fine. As touge_trueno said the one on the top of the box going onto the chassis rail requires work.

The 5speed chassis rail has the mount bracket welded to it, the 6speed chassis rail has the mount bolt to it

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Hopefully that makes sense.


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Postby FST4RD » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:01 pm

Sorry to drag up an old post
But my mates ae111 bz caribs 6 speed is getting really tired. Only thing is that 6 speeds seem to be quite rare and worth moonbeams, and with a mortgage and 2nd kid on the way he won't be able to stretch to buying another one.
Have lined up a super cheap 5 speed from a ae92 with warranty etc.
So from what I've read the mounts will be fine. Are the shafts definitely going to be fine? Linkages?
Someone mentioned the ecu? Is this a must have? Will a ecu from any other bt 5 speed fit us and work fine?

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Postby FST4RD » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:08 pm

One other thing... will the lsd from the 6 speed fit the non lsd 5 speed?
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Postby sergei » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:13 pm

FST4RD wrote:One other thing... will the lsd from the 6 speed fit the non lsd 5 speed?


As far as I am aware BZ Caribs do not have LSD from factory...
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Postby FST4RD » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:19 pm

sergei wrote:
FST4RD wrote:One other thing... will the lsd from the 6 speed fit the non lsd 5 speed?


As far as I am aware BZ Caribs do not have LSD from factory...


Ah well that might help. I'll get him to do the 1 wheel on grass, 1 on seal to confirm. He thinks it does.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:12 pm

touge_ae101 wrote:also may need to look at ecu as 6 speed ecu pulls a bit of timing on gear change to shelter the weaker 6 speed box.


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Postby sergei » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:18 pm

FST4RD wrote:
sergei wrote:
FST4RD wrote:One other thing... will the lsd from the 6 speed fit the non lsd 5 speed?


As far as I am aware BZ Caribs do not have LSD from factory...


Ah well that might help. I'll get him to do the 1 wheel on grass, 1 on seal to confirm. He thinks it does.


This might not work with torsen (if grass is too slippery).
Best way to test a torsen is full throttle in the corner in the wet; if inner wheel is spinning then no torsen, otherwise it should pull neatly around the corner (or under-steer badly).
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