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Postby steroidcontaskie » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:35 pm

Hi all

I am going to get rid of my ebay turbo set up, get one made here in NZ and do it all properly. Just need to decide on a turbo to get. Was thinking one like the one I had (an ebay T70 copy) but twin-scroll and hopefully better made. I came across these new master power racing ones

http://www.frantik.co.nz/MasterPower-Turbos.html

anyone know anything about these? Or have any suggestions of possible options?

I have 2jzge stock compression, 550cc injectors, walbro pump, AEM water methanol injection. Looking at 8-9psi base tune and 14psi with the water meth spraying.

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Postby Mr Ree » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:09 pm

What are you going to use the car for? Just street driving, or a bit of track work too? Do you have a specific power goal in mind?

The MP turbos seem to be fairly robust, and reliable, from what I have seen, and the new range looks to have improvements over the previous range, so given their price, it could be a good choice.

Dont go getting a big old T70 though, keep it small and responsive so its fun to drive. Again, this comes back to intended use.
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Postby BlakeNZ » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:17 pm

"Bazda" on this forum is an agent for Masterpower and turbonetics, hard to beat him on price. Would also recommend a suitable size too.
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Postby steroidcontaskie » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:51 pm

The car will do for street driving, I don't have a power goal in mind, but I would like the soarer to be faster in a straight line than my mates turbo A supra :D. Might take it to the drag strip and see what it can run. I guess I was hoping to get a bit better low down performance by going twin scroll. And I am full factory compression (10:1), so I would think that will help off boost too.

I have just rebuilt the auto trans with a IPT rebuild kit and a transgo shift kit. So I am hopefully the transmission will handle a descent amount of power.

If you could re-choose a turbo for your Supra what would you choose? Is your spool a bit slow with the XSpower turbo?

http://www.importperformancetrans.com/c ... -1785.html

http://transgoonline.com/products.php?p ... ntview=Yes
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Postby Mr Ree » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:05 am

If I was you and going to get one of the MP turbos, I would look at a R59X with a T3 rear and 0.84 split turbine housing.

That will give you some room to grow later if you decide you want more :)

I dont know if mine is good or not, as I havent driven an A80 with a brand name turbo in the same size, but Im sure there is far better out there.

I want to do the same as you, but decided that until the current one cries enough, Im going to keep on beating on it :) When I replace it, it will be with something like a 6262 I would think
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Postby limbo » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:53 am

Toyota got it right in the factory, only real choice for a 3L straight six single turbo is a CT26!!!

Aww stink I fell out of the top 10 on the TS dyno charts.....
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Postby 92mr2paddy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:40 am

masterpowers are good i got one on my sr20 and its never given problems, definately good value for money. all depends what power/spool rpm you want, i personally dont see the point to have boost between lights etc so having a t70+ doesnt bother me and a 2jz will spool anything pretty quick expecialy with high compression. very interested to see your aem meth kit in action when your car is done im looking at getting one aswell. 8)
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Postby evil_si » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:07 am

Oliver is good to deal with,

Ive done lots of manifolds with masterpower turbos now, never had any issues


Not masterpower but lots of fun
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Postby 2jayzgte » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:55 am

Garrett GT3582 with a .82 housing.
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Postby Mr Ree » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:31 am

If you are going to look at a Garrett, get the newer GT-X 3582R
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Postby steroidcontaskie » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:31 pm

Toyota got it right in the factory, only real choice for a 3L straight six single turbo is a CT26!!!


Interesting, don't suppose you know anyone that is taking a freshly rebuilt one off there turbo A so they can put a factory turbo A one back on?


Aww stink I fell out of the top 10 on the TS dyno charts.....


As far as power goes I would like to get on the toyspeed top 10, so that would mean a bit more than 250rwkw at 14psi.

I will have a read up on the specs of the garrett, and see if I can find a 2jz na-t dyno for one.

I am thinking of getting the stall of my torque converter changed too, so many things to consider..


That is one mean as looking set up evil_si, have you have done any work on a 2jz na-t with the distributor in the way?
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Postby steroidcontaskie » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:16 pm

very interested to see your aem meth kit in action when your car is done im looking at getting one aswell


It is about the only part of the build that appears to be working correctly...touch wood. Once the car is up and running I will take it for a bit of a road trip. Are you in Auckland?

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Postby 92mr2paddy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:47 pm

yeap im in auckland, but my cars shat its crank seal and havent found any time to fix it, lol, the thing with getting a masterpower turbo vs a garrett you save over 1000bux which can be spent on a proper manifold and wastegate imo.
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Re: Turbo for a 2jz

Postby steroidcontaskie » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:58 pm

Hi all

Just to bring this back to life. I am changing my crappy chinese turbo (buy a new one this week) and are down to 2 options.

A Master power MPR- R61 61/88mm compressor with a T3 0.7AR split rear ($1050), or one of Steve Murch's Holset. Probably a HX40 (60/86mm) again with a small split T3 rear housing (Won't know for sure until I can actually talk to Mr Murch.....) $1650

I am looking for a 300rwkw at 14-15 psi ( 2jzge, 10:1 compression, water methanol injection, strengthened automatic transmission). And have been told that these turbos will deliver that.
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I would like to add that Oliver from Frantik has been really great to talk to about the Master Power turbos.

Does anyone have any input about these 2 turbos? Particularly the Steve Murch Holset as I don't really know anything about them.

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Re: Turbo for a 2jz

Postby XSVWGN » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:59 pm

I use a master powers T58 on my corolla and it takes a hiding all day long. I was going to use it on a 2jz I had planned for my corona and it would have been a strong and suitable choice.

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Re: Turbo for a 2jz

Postby Bazda » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:37 am

We are doing the new Turbonetics billet range.
These are on par with Holset regarding how strong the cores are. Much better than MP units build wise and quality.

We are getting around 500rpm faster spool over the cast wheels with this new range.
Pricing starts at $1450 for a 2j sized turbo.

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Re: Turbo for a 2jz

Postby steroidcontaskie » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:29 pm

Hi all

I have deceided to try a Steve Murch special Holset. Will be interesting to see how it actually performs and if the turbo lives up to the hype. I will post dyno graphs as soon as the car is tuned.

Cheers for the input.
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Re: Turbo for a 2jz

Postby Mr Ree » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:20 pm

What size is it? Or comparable to?
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Re: Turbo for a 2jz

Postby steroidcontaskie » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:33 pm

It is a t3 hx40 12 cm split rear housing with whatever modifications/customization Steve Murch does to it. He is very tight lipped on what he actually does, so I am putting faith in his reputation. The inducer is about 60mm depending on what compressor he decides is best for my application.

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Re: Turbo for a 2jz

Postby Mr Ree » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:21 am

That should be lots of fun :)

How much boost are you planning on running, as Im guessing you will be octane limited if you are staying at 10:1
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