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by **MilfHunter** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:33 pm

These boxes came up recently and the owners are claiming they are Celica/Celica GT4 items, but I don't believe them

1st has the starter on the exhaust side, looks like an "E" series box.
It's definitely not a Celica S53 box
Is this from a 4A-GZE?

2nd has the starter behind the motor and looks similar to the Celica "E" but I suspect maybe from a Corolla 4x4?

by **Jason T** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:45 pm

# 1 3sge ST206 Curren will be lsd

http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_1995_TOYOTA_CURREN_ST206-DCMVF_4301.3.html

# 2 4AFE Carib uninteresting boat anchor

http://www.st162.net/forum/showthread.p ... f833853382

by **Scottie** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:17 pm

That toyodiy link shows the starter motor location in a different spot to Milfhunters top image.

GT4 starter motors are located on the front of the motor, gearbox side. The bottom one is definitely not a GT4

by **Lloyd** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:58 pm

AE92 GTZ:

by **strx7** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:59 pm

my guesstimates are that the top one is a 3S gearbox probably St202 or similar, defintily E series box, and the bell housing patten appears to have the engine on a backwards slope, and starter location is correct

the 2nd one looks like ae104 or ae95 4wd corolla/carib with lockable centre diff.

by **MilfHunter** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:52 am

Thanks for the feedback
That pic of the converted box (satans child) actually now belongs to me and is in pieces downstairs. It's a 185 RC box (3.9) fitted with an MR2 LSD and cover plate. On inspection I found cracks in the pinions and munted synchro's

What I know about the 1st box. It now belongs to a mate in Sydney and was sold to him as a Beams box.
It has a KAAZ LSD fitted, which suggests that it wasn't stock LSD.
I've asked him to to test fit it to a 3S block, but his spare block is at the shop and his gearbox mac want's $4k to put this one back together.

The starter is definitely on the wrong side, apart from the S53 I don't know of another box with that arrangement

Here's the internals of the 1st box

I'll try get a pic of the other side so you can see the starter hole is blanked off

by **MilfHunter** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:53 pm

Thanks for the feedback guys

Turns out my friend was mistaken, new pic of the stripped box shows it's a converted ST165 unit with a MR2 Kaaz 1.5 diff fitted

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