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Postby dnalunchie » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:49 am

A mate of mine had what still remains in my mind as the nicest Trueno 86 I have ever seen. Was silver with awesome custom made old school looking dished mags, had this really awesomely done Porsche duck tale style spoiler and ran a lightly modded small port 4age (slightly uprated cams, intake, exhaust and an HKS ecu). Was his weekend car and I think I remember him saying he ran it mostly on av gas as dunedin didn't have 98 then.

Was only around 110-120kw atw but I think it must have had a closer ratio gear set because DAM it shifted through 1st 2nd and 3rd. Was about line ball with my RS legacy in acceleration which I thought was pretty good back then.

He offered it to me for 7k when he left NZ but I was only 18 and didn't have the money.

Stupid hindsight.

I hear it was brought and moved to christchurch but I have never seen it or heard about it since. Hope it is still around and not thrashed or crashed to death. Was the perfect 86 in my mind
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Postby d1 mule » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:02 am

dnalunchie wrote:
Was only around 110-120kw atw


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Postby Dell'Orto » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:08 pm

dnalunchie wrote:A mate of mine had what still remains in my mind as the nicest Trueno 86 I have ever seen. Was silver with awesome custom made old school looking dished mags, had this really awesomely done Porsche duck tale style spoiler and ran a lightly modded small port 4age (slightly uprated cams, intake, exhaust and an HKS ecu). Was his weekend car and I think I remember him saying he ran it mostly on av gas as dunedin didn't have 98 then.

Was only around 110-120kw atw but I think it must have had a closer ratio gear set because DAM it shifted through 1st 2nd and 3rd. Was about line ball with my RS legacy in acceleration which I thought was pretty good back then.

He offered it to me for 7k when he left NZ but I was only 18 and didn't have the money.

Stupid hindsight.

I hear it was brought and moved to christchurch but I have never seen it or heard about it since. Hope it is still around and not thrashed or crashed to death. Was the perfect 86 in my mind


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Postby Alex B » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:20 pm

If it's the one I'm thinking of on techno phantoms it died in a fire a few years back :(
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Postby diss7 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:26 pm

d1 mule wrote:
dnalunchie wrote:
Was only around 110-120kw atw


SHIT YARN / LIES / billion dollar 4age


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Postby FST4RD » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:30 pm

I thought the 86 only got popular when that chap in that fictional Japanese cartoon drove one?
That's why people love the black and white panda ones so much?

I never really "got" there cars. Even in the mid 80's when they were newish there were better offerings in the 2 door, rwd variety (that's my opinion, other people's may differ). Cars like the supra, soarer, starion, skyline, etc, had more power, some had irs, better brakes, less prone to rust etc.
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Re: Value is in the eye of the beholder :)

Postby Tranquil » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:33 pm

jondee86 wrote:
jbod wrote:Why's the ae86 better than the 85? Better running gear?

This question indicates that you have no real understanding of
what an AE86 is, or why some "old cars" fetch more money than
their apparent worth. Do some research on any old "cult" car such
as the BDA Escort, XU1 Torana, GTHO Falcon or 327 Monaro, to
name just a few local cars.

Sure, they are just old Holdens or Fords, but they were used in
motorsports with considerable success. The AE86 had an enviable
record in racing and rallying at the highest level for many years.
It has its own series for Group N in Japan, multiple dedicated web
sites for enthusiasts, and is one of the most accessible RWD cars
for modifying and having fun at modest cost.

So educate yourself, and then give the finger to all the so-called
motorsports enthusiasts who only see an old Corolla :roll:

Cheers... jondee86


Yeah! i know the first thing i think about when seeing an AE8X is its glorious competition history where great men, competing in great machines, created great dynasties which will endure generations.

Actually not being totally honest.. the prevalent thought is - wasnt that car in some kind of .jp cartoon (with a decided lack of tentacle rape)? Popular Culture is what makes the AE8X series what it is. Like a DeLorean, Mr T's bad ass GMC van or a Lava Lamp.
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Postby FST4RD » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:34 pm

However if someone offered to give me a Levin front 86 with a turbo motor, I wouldn't say no. If I had to pay for it though, with the current market prices, I would buy something else.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:36 pm

Alex B wrote:If it's the one I'm thinking of on techno phantoms it died in a fire a few years back :(


That makes me all kinds of sad, those rims were amazing
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Postby l SIC l » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:16 pm

I shall cancel negotiations with that 12.5k AE86 after this thread :lol:
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:27 pm

FST4RD wrote:I never really "got" there cars. Even in the mid 80's when they were newish there were better offerings in the 2 door, rwd variety (that's my opinion, other people's may differ). Cars like the supra, soarer, starion, skyline, etc, had more power, some had irs, better brakes, less prone to rust etc.



Werent they all either significantly more $$$, or much heavier and poorly balanced? The AE86 was a good handling car for its time, and for its price bracket. A mate used to have one with a v tight diff and it was heaps of fun on gravel/open roads, but a bit shit around town. If you could still pick them up for $3k they'd still be a great car for a track toy/hoon mobile.

Just noticed a facebook post from a guy I know, dynoed his 86 this morning, 98kW at the wheels @8800rpm. With sidedraft carbs, and 297/9.6mm cams. I think lunchies 110rwkw is a little optimistic for a "lightly modded engine". Nice flat torque curve from 6k rpm to 8.5k.
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Postby Lloyd » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:46 pm

Grrrrrrr! wrote: I think lunchies 110rwkw is a little optimistic for a "lightly modded engine".


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Postby rollaholic » Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:23 pm

lots of people would love to own an AE86, i'd happily have another. not everyone has equal amounts of money though, and because supply is only getting more limited that equals higher prices.

to some 12k+ is a snip for their 'hero car'. for me, like others, i see better bang for buck elsewhere. from a performance / drive-joy point of view they are ludicrously overpriced.

i would buy one if i won lotto or something though.
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Postby Boost_4_Life » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:00 pm

ae86's are expensive because finland has all the parts:

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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:12 pm

Good vid, ae86s being used for real racing! So much cooler than all that drifting shit.











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Postby QikStarlie » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:17 pm

Boost_4_Life wrote:ae86's are expensive because finland has all the parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yRROnG0-lA


half the parts.. ain't no trueno ^

someone can buy mine for 20k, oh no wait its a ae85, 2k then
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Postby Looonie » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:24 pm

QikStarlie wrote:
Boost_4_Life wrote:ae86's are expensive because finland has all the parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yRROnG0-lA


half the parts.. ain't no trueno ^

someone can buy mine for 20k, oh no wait its a ae85, 2k then


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Postby QikStarlie » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:52 pm

sold :D
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:27 pm

d1 mule wrote:
dnalunchie wrote:
Was only around 110-120kw atw


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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:28 pm

Though to be fair, 120rwkw from a 4AGE is a fair bit of work, would be close to 200 flywheel HP
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