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Alto upgrades

Postby FST4RD » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:00 pm

So I have a 3 cylinder, 660cc Suzuki Alto as my daily. Been pondering making the car a bit more grunty lol.
Being the engine size it is, would it possible to fit a triple carb motorbike setup from a motorbike with similar displacement? Obviously an adapter plate would need to be made, but I'm all for induction noise.
Or would a single carb from a similar size motorbike be any better than the single carb the car comes with?
I was also thinking some slight cam grind and maybe exhaust (would talk to my mate to knock one up).
Car drives comfortably at 100kmph, but it would be nice to be able to get there a bit quicker and have more overtaking power.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby Leon » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:47 pm

.... not sure if serious ....
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby FST4RD » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:39 pm

Very serious :lol:

I've had the car for years, it has some Works 14" wheels to make it ride better. Radiator blew a while ago so it has a twin core alloy racing radiator for reliability, and that I got it for $160, and a factory replacement new was $800+! Has a few other small mods that have been had over the years too.
Definitely a fun wee car to drive (I have a wrx and Starion for when I want to go super fast), but I'm thinking a bit more performance out of the sewing machine motor.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby KwS » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:33 pm

Have a look around some overseas forums. Keep in mind there is a huge following in the likes of India, and its called a Maruti not Suzuki.

Not sure you will get a heck of a lot more out of the wee 3 banger, but hey, fun to try.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby FST4RD » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:05 pm

Well the plan was to drive it into the ground, then look at an engine swap. Something small and high revving like a Honda motor. But whilst the car has done 175ks, due to regular servicing and maintenance it still runs perfectly, so will be running for a while yet fingers crossed.
It's the perfect daily driver, fits into tight spaces, cheap to insure etc.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby MAC_HATER » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:07 am

Would http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/stre ... ne-1350-hp fit?

Failing that, I recall a friend talking about wanting to Supercharge his 650ish CC bike, apparently kits are out there, that might be cool to do haha
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby DRFTIN » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:32 am

later model turbo 660 sounds like the only option to me
any other mod will give you about 0.3 hp extra?

or the logical answer, trade it on a later model.
Hollands Suzuki have/had a few Celerio's as loaners, they're quite cool for a horrible little car. 1000cc turbo
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby phoenix » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:41 pm

Nitrous is probably your best option, a wet ~25hp shot would be plenty to start with.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby sergei » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:34 pm

Convert it to electric ;).

80kW or so motor.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby FST4RD » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:51 pm

I would love to convert it to electric, but would cost well more than the car is worth...
I just wish the Suzuki 3 cylinder cars were as spritely as the motorbike versions.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:32 pm

Hayabusa swap?
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby FST4RD » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:04 pm

I've seen motorbike engines put in them before, I've even seen one in the front and one in the back!
Lot of faffing around with the drive between the motorbike gearbox and wheels.
Pity one doesn't just bolt up to the current gearbox.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby Bling » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:55 pm

FST4RD wrote:I would love to convert it to electric, but would cost well more than the car is worth...

Wouldn't putting a K&N pod filter also be the same situation? :lol:

Electric would be damn sweet, if I have the electrical know-how i'd love to chip away at such a project.

Sergei, what sort of ballpark figure would you put on the parts?
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby Leon » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:12 pm

I think anything you do to it, will ruin what it is that you like about it.

If you make it goes faster, then you'll become more aware of how rubbish the handling / tyres / brakes are.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby sergei » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:22 pm

Bling wrote:
FST4RD wrote:I would love to convert it to electric, but would cost well more than the car is worth...

Wouldn't putting a K&N pod filter also be the same situation? :lol:

Electric would be damn sweet, if I have the electrical know-how i'd love to chip away at such a project.

Sergei, what sort of ballpark figure would you put on the parts?


I wasn't really serious about it, but when I was looking into it, it worked out about >20k for 40kWh battery pack, 80kW motor, controller, charger in just parts alone (no labour costs).
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby Al » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:39 pm

Nitrous. Two of the big ones.
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby Bling » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:39 pm

sergei wrote:I wasn't really serious about it, but when I was looking into it, it worked out about >20k for 40kWh battery pack, 80kW motor, controller, charger in just parts alone (no labour costs).


Yeah I don't imagine the budget is there for it in this thread. But I have found the electric cars people have built themselves in NZ interesting. ...if I won Lotto...
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby FST4RD » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:08 pm

Would love an electric car, perfect run about. Have the wagon for long distance.
Pity our government doesn't seem to want to support electric cars...
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Re: Alto upgrades

Postby Al » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:24 pm

It's all John Key's fault! :lol:
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