FORMULA ONE!!!

Jdawg · Post by **Jdawg** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:48 pm

When Ross Brawn went to Ferrari they were a dead duck and it was a big challenge to get to the top and then to dominate.
He faces the same challenge at Honda, but does he have the driver, Jenson Button, to do it?

It's only the Brake system that is really in question at McLaren and I'm sure they would have covered themselves over that.

Audi · Post by **Audi** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:17 am

Mr Revhead wrote:well. looks like renault are up for spying.

any takers on weather or not they get slammed like macca?

If they did cheat, they should recieve the exact same treatment. It even looks like they are using the same, "yeah we had material but we didn't use it" excuse. Who knows if they did or not, but as I said, it should definitely be investigated thoroughly and justice done. Same treatment for all.

As for next years MacLaren, I doubt they would be foolish enough to have used anything. Hopefully all the crap gets sorted and Honda bust it out! Although as mentioned, I dunno if Button has enough to be number one, maybe up to like number 3 or 4. Is Barrichelo still the other driver?

Snoozin · Post by **Snoozin** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:29 am

Sniffpetrol wrote:...and that Honda may have been using data from the 1991 Leyton House team, but upside down so that none of it worked properly.

Sniffpetrol never fails to crack me up :lol:

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:36 am

yeah that one had me on the floor!
:lol:

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:38 am

Worst kept secret in F1 Alonso seems to be definitely going back to Renault.
Ross Brawn going to Honda good on him they really need the help just like another big Japanese team man I wish Toyota would have splashed some more cash to get a hold of these two.I know they tried to get Alonso but if they had have got Ross Brawn now that would have been a real bonus for the team because just about every where that guy goes success quickly follow's.

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:17 pm

Well the latest I have heard is that Alonso is now linked with Ross Brawn and a possible move to Honda even.

fivebob · Post by **fivebob** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:31 pm

2jayzgte wrote:Well the latest I have heard is that Alonso is now linked with Ross Brawn and a possible move to Honda even.

And Honda have denied it, besides which they have two drivers already contracted for 2008, so there's no room at the inn for Alonshole.

Fred is waiting until the result of the FIA hearing into Reanult's spying on McLaren. If it goes badly for Renault, then he might look at other options. Other issue is that he only wants a one year deal, so he is free to go to Ferrari in 2009 (if they would have him), and all the teams want a minimum 2 year deal for their investment.

Who knows, if it goes bad for Renault they may even quit F1 and he might end up sitting out the season...Stranger things have happened in F1 before.

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:14 pm

hehehe wouldnt it be funny if force india were is only option

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:09 am

hmmmm

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64302

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64303

funny, briatore is now happy with something he was upset about months ago!!

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:36 am

Hardcase alright Renault get rid of both there drivers and replace them with Alonso and Piquiet JR.Goodbye Fischella and Kovalionen.Renault no fine Mclaren 100 mill hmm they both basically did the same thoing but one gets the full wrath and the other nothing.Ohhh F1 the rings and round abouts you gotta love it.

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:17 am

im guessing kovelininen will be snapped up by some one fast.

not only that, but mclaren not given the ok on their car yet.
gotta wait till like 3 weeks before the first race....

is mad max going to say no car not ok therefore pretty much kicking mclaren out

rolla_fxgt · Post by **rolla_fxgt** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:01 am

Mr Revhead wrote:im guessing kovelininen will be snapped up by some one fast.

not only that, but mclaren not given the ok on their car yet.
gotta wait till like 3 weeks before the first race....

is mad max going to say no car not ok therefore pretty much kicking mclaren out

I think Ron Dennis should just turn up at mad max's place with backless pants. It'd at least be out in the open that mad max is reaming ron's ass.

Maybe Mclaren & Mercedes need to threaten to walk from f1 too, it seemed to work for Renault

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:43 am

if i was ron id already have been desiging a GT car or something

rolla_fxgt · Post by **rolla_fxgt** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:51 am

Mr Revhead wrote:if i was ron id already have been desiging a GT car or something

Or IRL/Champ car

Perhaps we could invite them to NZ to run a new top teir wings & slicks formula, called i dunno, how about formula Mclaren :lol:

It could be an Australasian championship with 2 rounds in NZ, Hamilton or Hampton Downs & Ruapuna, 2 or 3 in Aus, Macau, Dubai, Bahrain, Malaysia, 2 in Japan, & Singapore, the same weekend as the F1 night race, perhaps even 1 in India.
Mclaren chasis, but with different engine suppliers

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:34 am

well
a lot has happened.....
mad max is still endearing himself to everyone
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64505

alonsa did what everyone thought he would

the FIA is still inconsistant

toyota have set a dead line for results by 2010, but dont actually say what happens if not successful

biggest LOL for me was:

But it is understood that his speed ultimately cost him the chance of staying on board at Renault, because the returning Fernando Alonso did not want a teammate to pose the kind of challenge that he faced with Lewis Hamilton at McLaren this year.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64352
:lol:

i was hoping toyota would pick up Kovalainen... but oh well. at least we wont have to watch ralf this year

Audi · Post by **Audi** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:57 am

I think Glock will drive well for them this year. And you can hardly call the FIA inconsistant. Mac deserved everything they got. They basically came out and said, yeah, we had waay more than we admitted to you, and maybe even our future car was gonna use stolen tech. So now we've said we're sorry can we not have that review and forget the whole thing? And the FIA said yes. Time for F1 to move on.

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:40 am

I think no one of any note is lining up to drive for them because I think they still have a fair way to go before they are competitive on a consistent basis hence why your Alonso's and Kovalinen's pass Toyota by.
I to would like to see a top echelon driver go to Toyota but until the team lifts its game and delivers at least competitive consistency they'll only get the 2nd choice driver's.

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:09 am

Audi wrote: And you can hardly call the FIA inconsistant. Mac deserved everything they got. They basically came out and said, yeah, we had waay more than we admitted to you, and maybe even our future car was gonna use stolen tech. So now we've said we're sorry can we not have that review and forget the whole thing? And the FIA said yes. Time for F1 to move on.

ah no

hello! renualt?!

and they never said that..... they said more ppl knew about it that they first thought, but they never said "and maybe even our future car was gonna use stolen tech"

Jdawg · Post by **Jdawg** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:02 am

Yes they did, reread Whitmarsh's letter.
He basically said, um yes caught us red handed, we have removed 3 bits from the 2008 car, can we play now. (nice to see that man of intregrity, Ron Dennis got Whitmarsh to write the letter)
Renault received the exact same treatment as Mclaren, but Renault did not lie when caught.

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:06 am

i disagree

a lot

yes mclaren were caught etc etc
but so were renault.... i cant see why renault were not punished. just not consistant.

but oh well, it will be settled on the track this year, and i dont really rate renaults chances of beating BMW etc let alone mclaren and ferrari