Just hit a telephone pole head on...

[B1NZ]

FWD driving lesson.

1) Back steps out
2) Driver immediately needs to mash the throttle.

This crash aint the fault of FWD this crash is because nobody ever taught you what to do if you step a FWD out.

Too true Looks like im going to have to do some proper training. Its not really something you anticipate, and perhaps there should be more compulsory training in the licence process.

come along to an autocroos or motorkhana event at Levin (grass) or Trentham (Tarmac) usually once a month theres one, you will learn car control much goodness

[Leon]

yeah or perhaps you could just "drive to the conditions, when they change reduce your speed"

Sometimes conditions do just bite you in the arse sometimes though. I arsed off a scooter and shredded my arm when I hit some gravel I wasn't expecting.

Yeah, an autocross would probably be the best way to experiment with this. Motorkhana is probably too low speed.

Next one is last Sunday of June, if you want to come along.

[soopachargen]

Lesson learned - well, maybe. Did take away a bit of the invincibility complex all 19 y old males have at least.

Thank god i learnt my leason at 15 rather than 19... when your younger you cant afford a powerful car for a good reason. The rolla would have left me dead in the same situation.

[Ae92typeX]

I just want the tyres though

I wouldn't. Not the best in the wet by the looks.

Front ones are brand new
...

not that it matters now, but tyre shops always say you should have the better tread on the rear of a car, whether fwd, rwd or whatever. Might have helped in this situation.

[soopachargen]

we were told to have the better tread on the front because they are the wheels that do the steering and the majority of the braking

[Ae92typeX]

I guess people have more control loosing the front than the back spinning out though. We are assuming all tread is legal all round of corse also. but yeah, I understand what you are saying. more than one tyre person has had the convo with me over the years though...meh!?

[FXGTV]

I just want the tyres though

I wouldn't. Not the best in the wet by the looks.

Front ones are brand new
...

not that it matters now, but tyre shops always say you should have the better tread on the rear of a car, whether fwd, rwd or whatever. Might have helped in this situation.

Thats what some mates said to me too Im a poor student though, i cant be expected to buy 4 tyres at once

[Reaper_2000]

in all defence for FXGTV, i was a passenger in his possibly 5 outa 7 days a week since he got it.

i do find it hard to believe that he would have been exceeding 35k, 40 tops as i know hes a careful driver in rough conditions

although some people drive differently when theyre alone, however i still dont think it would have been enough to be 'supppppparrrrrr vtaaaaxxxxxx b000st dr1ftspec!!!!!11' attack of the corner

i think it was your rear tyres,
maybe you need to re-analyse that corner and find a new apex for it for vtaaaaaaaaxing it round lol

ps yes guys, im a honda lover :p however i respect all cars for their individuality and technology etc blah.

[Ebola_One]

FWD driving lesson.

1) Back steps out
2) Driver immediately needs to mash the throttle.

This crash aint the fault of FWD this crash is because nobody ever taught you what to do if you step a FWD out.

I'd agree if every FWD car had an LSD. Otherwise, it's drivers use caution with this, sometimes mashing the gas makes it understeer worser.

Bring on my new car...any ideas?

*cough*Honda*cough*
I mean hey, apparently, you can't go fast enough to get into trouble.
PC's honda looks great with spinners too.

[Leon]

There are always exceptions to the rule. One should always practice these things under controlled circumstances before one encounters them on the road.

[Jazza]

Ive only once had the back of my car swing out (in a FWD) and it was when someone grabbed my handbrake I really have no idea how some people manage to get into these situations...

[pc]

Well, i advise you get a lawer, i have 2 driving convictions to my name now and from experiance every time the prosecution would make it sound so bad i wouldn't have let me out of the court room. It wasn't that bad however and if i had a good criminal lawer looking back i doubt i would have been charged in the end. I did pleed guilty both times under some bad advise.
I still have a good insurance record having never claimed for anything i have caused. If your with state and they write off your car... i doubt they will offer you more insurance on your next purchase. They seem to do that after a total loss situation. I know peope who have been there.
GO AND SEE A REPUTAL LAWER BEFORE YOU ACCEPT LIABILTY!!!

altho i think you already have

Waaaay ahead of ya mate I've got a solicitor all lined up...although i want to go Ally McBeal on their asses and represent myself.

I'm putting together a case at the moment, putting the burdon of proof squarely in the hands of the police. They will use all the classic argument to frame me as 'just another young and reckless driver.'

For example, it will be their argument that im young and therefore inexperienced etc etc. Well under our Bill of right its illegal to discriminate because age, race, religion etc, so there goes that argument. Also i've been to the doctor, taken pictures and made sure to keep a record of EVERYTHING just incase the coppers get a little too over zealous when proscecuting me.

Heres hoping all goes well and i get to have some fun in court

My advice would be not to try and defend the charge. If you go in there and say i did it, i'm bad, slap my wrists, etc. etc. you will have to pay $200 donation to some charity. If you defend it you will spend a lot more and it will be a major hassle. Court is only set up for guilty people... there is no innocent, only rich people who spend lots on good lawyers.

[4ageman]

cars dont make people crash. doesent matter weather its Fwd' Rwd or 4wd its driver error or poor car condition. why blame the road or that particuler corner. if a survey was done starting since that road and particuler corner where made how many cars have gone around it. How many have crashed? i know its impossible to answear but point is why blame the car/corner/ when at the end of the day you stuffed up how you took the corner.

[FXGTV]

Just got the news, cars a definate write off. Engine mount rooted the gearbox. Well thats what they said anyway. Who knows really

[Psycho_Dad]

Just got the news, cars a definate write off. Engine mount rooted the gearbox. Well thats what they said anyway. Who knows really

well i know you were allways waiting to do the 1uz conversion, look at this as an oppertunity

Peace
Psycho_Dad

[FXGTV]

Just got the news, cars a definate write off. Engine mount rooted the gearbox. Well thats what they said anyway. Who knows really

well i know you were allways waiting to do the 1uz conversion, look at this as an oppertunity

Peace
Psycho_Dad

I told in insurance company i wanted the wreck so i could put a quad turbo rotor in it, but they said something about me being a homo and hung up.

[86_rolla]

Just got the news, cars a definate write off. Engine mount rooted the gearbox. Well thats what they said anyway. Who knows really

well i know you were allways waiting to do the 1uz conversion, look at this as an oppertunity

Peace
Psycho_Dad

I told in insurance company i wanted the wreck so i could put a quad turbo rotor in it, but they said something about me being a homo and hung up.

hahahaa, ring them up and say people are building 3 rotor ferraris so why cant i build aquad rotor corolla