REVENGE IS MINE!!!!!!!! truck vs. mitsi

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REVENGE IS MINE!!!!!!!! truck vs. mitsi

Postby Pies » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:37 pm

ok well i didnt cause it so technically its not mine... but hey who cares

this happened about 20 mins ago at the end of my road

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apparently a white and grey 96 shape subaru pulled out infront of the mitsi that was infront of the truck. mitsi slammed on brakes and truck did too. ths is the end result
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Postby AJz » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:13 pm

na man, he was trying to do the mad D1Spec drifties :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

someones gonna be in trouble, hehehe
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Postby 86_rolla » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:23 pm

he had his 5X drift bonus and a new high score of 18,000 until he lost it
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Postby Elmo » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:38 pm

Thats why trucks are now coming out with ABS!! That would never have happened!
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Postby 86_rolla » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:43 pm

. whoops
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Postby MrOizo » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:55 pm

Impressive!!!

That would have had a empty load and that would explain the pulses on the ground from the locking up of the tyres!

Guess if that had some metal/dirt in the back it might not have been so bad cos the load in the trailer would have made the tyres have more contact with the road surface :o
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Postby AJz » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:51 pm

MrOizo wrote:Impressive!!!

That would have had a empty load and that would explain the pulses on the ground from the locking up of the tyres!


Ha, i never noticed that, makes sense tho.
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Postby mr_monkey » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:37 pm

Ive seen a rubbish truck ( must have been empty) try to stop suddenly and its wheels did the whole bouncy thing.

very violent.

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Postby XERO » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:57 pm

AJz wrote:
MrOizo wrote:Impressive!!!

That would have had a empty load and that would explain the pulses on the ground from the locking up of the tyres!


Ha, i never noticed that, makes sense tho.


So are those 'pulses' from the trailer or the truck itself?

also, how bad would it have been if the trailer went all the way over and tipped the cab at the same time?
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Postby MrOizo » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:17 am

XERO wrote:
AJz wrote:
MrOizo wrote:Impressive!!!

That would have had a empty load and that would explain the pulses on the ground from the locking up of the tyres!


Ha, i never noticed that, makes sense tho.


So are those 'pulses' from the trailer or the truck itself?

also, how bad would it have been if the trailer went all the way over and tipped the cab at the same time?


Would have been from the trailer. Could have been from the truck but i doubt it. the trailer is relatively lighter... When you see this happen it is pretty freaky. Looks kinda like hydro's from a ute from the auto salon :P

The turning from the trailer wouldnt have over turned the truck as they are designed to swivel.
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Postby Elmo » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:31 am

I would say the pulses are from the truck, when you look right in front of the people standing there, you can see what looks like the trailor tyres marks (rear axles) where it has gone over the barrier. The pulsing marks carry on up to the truck.

I think you will find that there are very few trailors out there with ABS, the only ones we come across are on fuel tankers. Many trucks have them now, but not trailors.
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Postby MrOizo » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:56 am

Elmo wrote:I think you will find that there are very few trailors out there with ABS, the only ones we come across are on fuel tankers. Many trucks have them now, but not trailors.


I reckon the pulses are from the front axles of the trailer although the they could be from the truck.

With the trailer 'drifting' to the left would cause the front axles to go to the left too which might be why the pulses are to the left also.

I'm not saying that the trailer had ABS. All i'm saying is that when trailers lock up they bounce around like crazy in a quick stopping situation.

Would be interesting to see a full police investigation ans to see that exactly went on (according to the police).
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Postby Just_Juzz » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:25 am

Actually, quiet a lot of new trailers have ABS. Especially the ones with disc brakes.
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Postby MrOizo » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:27 am

Just_Juzz wrote:Actually, quiet a lot of new trailers have ABS. Especially the ones with disc brakes.


damn thats wicked with them having disks...

where are the sensors for the 'slipping'?

are there pickups on the trailers now or all done on the trucks part?
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Postby Just_Juzz » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:50 am

MrOizo wrote:
Just_Juzz wrote:Actually, quiet a lot of new trailers have ABS. Especially the ones with disc brakes.


damn thats wicked with them having disks...

where are the sensors for the 'slipping'?

are there pickups on the trailers now or all done on the trucks part?


What the heck are you on?
In simple terms:
The trailer has abs sensors just like your car does (cog on the back of the hub). Sends a signal back to the trucks ECU which then controls the trailer abs system.
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Postby CaM » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:40 pm

trailers are coming out now with ebs & abs to match the trucks that have the saem
american trucks usually have to be retrofitted with it coz they;re miles behind, as always.

trucks and trailers stop/handle better with a load on, the wheels often wont lock when loaded = good. NZHVBC actually turns down the brakes efficiency on most trucks to make every trailer /truck combo interchangable. the lack of shock absorbers on rear of trucks most of the time, and on trailers, plus a lack of any load meant it would have just bounced.... 3000kg rated springs (each, and that particular trailer would have 8 of them) are fairly solid, esp on a 5500kg tare weight trailer.... not that shocks really make any difference to them, except a tad more maintenance...

disc brakes on trailers are often high maintenance and offer little advantage over drums, esp in NZ where we run so many axles (same weight in the us or europe only runs 2 axles on a trailer where we run 4-6

haha, go regal haulage....

edit: last pic of trailer shows airbag pedestal i htink

same difference though, just a softer ride lol :roll:
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Postby saft » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:58 pm

CaM wrote:trailers are coming out now with ebs & abs to match the trucks that have the saem
american trucks usually have to be retrofitted with it coz they;re miles behind, as always.



it doesnt need to be retrofitted to american trucks, we just imported a w900l KW last year, it had factory abs.

altho ours is drum you can get full disk brakes on kenworths if you want, afaik the option isnt published in the spec list, but i know of trucks that have been delivered like that

its not the manufacturers dragging the chain, its the new zealand agents for them..

just out of interest, are you a diesel mechanic or something like that, you seem to know a fair bit about it.
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Postby Just_Juzz » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:17 pm

Thats why we sell Scania and Isuzu...

Anyway, back on topic.. nasty crash.
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Postby saft » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:05 pm

Just_Juzz wrote:Thats why we sell Scania and Isuzu...


wheres the yawning smiley, even when my truck had diesel bug i could pass either of them up the south side of the bombays :lol:
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Postby MrOizo » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:24 pm

Just_Juzz wrote:
MrOizo wrote:
Just_Juzz wrote:Actually, quiet a lot of new trailers have ABS. Especially the ones with disc brakes.


damn thats wicked with them having disks...

where are the sensors for the 'slipping'?

are there pickups on the trailers now or all done on the trucks part?


What the heck are you on?
In simple terms:
The trailer has abs sensors just like your car does (cog on the back of the hub). Sends a signal back to the trucks ECU which then controls the trailer abs system.


I'm on "havent seen a trailer in a while"

Just curious as to how they work thats all geez! no harm in answering questions :)
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