TRD coil overs = classed as OEM??

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TRD coil overs = classed as OEM??

Postby Alex B » Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:34 pm

I know of an SW20 with ajustiable height suspension in it. It has no cert, does it need one? Or is TRD classes as OEM.
Im sure Mr Smeghead has said before that TRD is classed as OEM. People are fighting me on this, as they should be as im not so sure my self :P

EDIT:http://forums.toyspeed.org.nz/viewtopic.php?t=47269&highlight=trd
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Postby CozmoNz » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:22 pm

well apparently if you go yell at ltsa theyll check their regs, and have to let it pass,

and if they dont, then write a letter of complaint.

or yaknow, just do what id do, and not goto the bloody ltsa.

Whos stuipd enough to do that anyway?

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Postby Alex B » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:40 pm

Doesnt matter, whos to say your local WOF tester wont turn them down. :P
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Postby CozmoNz » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:55 pm

The fact that i dont get failed on tipically wof failable items?

i dont care, i dont have adjustables, dosnt worry me, why should it worry you?
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Postby Alex B » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:58 pm

Because i want them :twisted:
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Postby NZ_AE86 » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:14 pm

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Postby Jazza » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:18 pm

I remember a thread debating this. There was something that allowed TRD to be OEM im sure of it...
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:22 pm

LTSAs own definition is OEM includes a replacment part provided by the manufacter.
if i had TRD coilovers and was asked for a cert id show them the appropriate part of thier own rules and tell em to get fuct 8)

this has already covered twice.... and proven in real life several times.
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Postby Alex B » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:24 pm

So if MR VTNZ says "no you get fuct, trd is not toyota" (are they the same company?) Could toyota produce a letter to the effect saying they are infact oem?
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Postby NZ_AE86 » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:31 pm

Well just because Toyota own or run TRD it doesn't make it OEM. If this was the case you could say that any Jaguar part you fit to a Ford doesn't need cert as it is OEM!
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Postby Alex B » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:33 pm

But ford dont make parts designed for jaugar, and they are run as compleatly diffrent manufactures. Thats chalk n cheese.
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Postby Lloyd » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:39 pm

It comes down to whether or not TRD stuff is made by the original manufacturer of the vehicle, ie Toyota
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Postby wde_bdy » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:44 pm

HRT wrote:It comes down to whether or not TRD stuff is made by the original manufacturer of the vehicle, ie Toyota


And designed specifcally for the model you are using them on.
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Postby Lloyd » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:46 pm

Well, bolt straight in anyway.

For anyone interested:
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/public ... -v2-1a.pdf
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Postby Dragger_Dan » Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:25 pm

For a quick summary -

springs and spring seats are not height adjustable (unless OE)

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OE means original equipment fitted at the time of manufacture of the vehicle, or a part supplied by the vehicle manufacturer


So, any reasonable person could come to the conclusion that TRD coilovers, made by Toyota (assuming this part is true), are considered OE parts, and OE adjustable height suspention is a legal item in a standard vehicle inspection.

Quote "VIRM: In-Service Certification, version 2, July 2003, Introduction page 48" for the definition of OE and "VIRM: In-Service Certification version 2, ammendment 1, March 2004, Page 9-1-4" for the suspention rules.

This is the LTSA's own words here, I can't see a way of interpreting it that would make TRD coilovers require a cert.
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Postby cynakyl » Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:08 pm

one of my mates who is a mechanic who also does wof's cleared this up for me ages ago. Basically adjustable suspension that was NOT in the car at time of manufacture, even if TRD or whatever, will need to be cert'd. Unless it came into the country with them on as was the case with my friend's pulsar that had adjustable nismo suspension in it. Anything you put in now will need to be cert'd. this was how it was explained to me.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:10 pm

cynakyl wrote:Unless it came into the country with them on as was the case with my friend's pulsar that had adjustable nismo suspension in it. .


Thats bollocks, whats to stop anyone saying "Oh but it came into the country like this". Tell your mate to re-read the VIRM.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:10 pm

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OE means original equipment fitted at the time of manufacture of the vehicle, or a part supplied by the vehicle manufacturer
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Postby Snoozin » Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:20 pm

Is TRD Toyota then?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:21 pm

sure is
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