Starter motor slipping??

[Farmer_dave]

Hey
This aint related to the Caldina or any toyota for that matter.
Its my suzuki sj413 in fact, The starter motor wont engage it will for a second then you can just hear the starter motor turning but not the engine (if that makes sense) I took the starter motor off and and the ring gear has soem minor wear nothing major though, As someone suggested I had the front of the starter motor machined it now goes into the bellhousing an extra 2mm but its still exactly the same, whats next?? replace the flywheel??

[Monsterbishi]

Assuming you can see the teeth on the flywheel from some angle, turn the crankover by hand, keep an eye out for missing teeth on the flywheel.

[Ae92typeX]

without knowing the starter motor in question- is it possible the pinion gear is no longer fixed properly to the motor shaft?- so it would engage and then just start slipping?

[Farmer_dave]

Yeah nah that seems fine

[Elmo]

Id take the starter to an auto sparky and get them to check it over.

[Farmer_dave]

Yeah I sure hope it is a starter motor problem and not the flywheel thought the starter motor seems to working correctly, I have a gut feeling its the flywheel ringgear although Im not sure how worn it actually is.

[Adamal]

How's your battery?
Could be that it's not giving the starter motor enough juice to whack it onto the flywheel.
Had that happen on my Ex's Hyundai once. Ended up taking the starter motor to bits only to find it still happened. Put another battery in and whammo...

[matt dunn]

Hey
This aint related to the Caldina or any toyota for that matter.
Its my suzuki sj413 in fact, The starter motor wont engage it will for a second then you can just hear the starter motor turning but not the engine (if that makes sense) I took the starter motor off and and the ring gear has soem minor wear nothing major though, As someone suggested I had the front of the starter motor machined it now goes into the bellhousing an extra 2mm but its still exactly the same, whats next?? replace the flywheel??

The starter has a one way clutch built into it and the are very common to fail. Usually on Mitsi starters. ( mitsi electric co not mitsi car co )
I think you'll find that it will have a mitsi elec brand starter on it.

[Farmer_dave]

Thanks for the comments/input guys, I will look into trying another starter motor and hope for the best cheers.

[blitza]

test the pinion, put the starter in the vise, solidly, grab some jumper leads and a battery, and a chunk of timber, fence battons are perfect, but a coupple if feet of 4x2 will do. connect the battery to the leads, and clip the negative end of the jumpers to the vise, withe the plusitive end of the jumpers make a contact with both the large terminal on your starter as well as the solenoid terminal, usually a small spade terminal.
should go whizz and whurr, the pinion should, err slide out with a good whack.
to test the clutch, with the starter motoring, lever up against the pinion with your woody, normally one end on the bench, one end in your hand, putting grunt on the pinion on the middle ish. you should be able to put enough grunt onto it to stall/slow the motor, not make the clutch slip or the pinion stop. enjoy the fragrance of burning wood, dont keep the motor turning too long at a time.

[matt dunn]

test the pinion, put the starter in the vise, solidly, grab some jumper leads and a battery, and a chunk of timber, fence battons are perfect, but a coupple if feet of 4x2 will do. connect the battery to the leads, and clip the negative end of the jumpers to the vise, withe the plusitive end of the jumpers make a contact with both the large terminal on your starter as well as the solenoid terminal, usually a small spade terminal.
should go whizz and whurr, the pinion should, err slide out with a good whack.
to test the clutch, with the starter motoring, lever up against the pinion with your woody, normally one end on the bench, one end in your hand, putting grunt on the pinion on the middle ish. you should be able to put enough grunt onto it to stall/slow the motor, not make the clutch slip or the pinion stop. enjoy the fragrance of burning wood, dont keep the motor turning too long at a time.

Or if you take it to an Auto Electrian we can feel it by hand and tell you if it's any good. Comes with practise not something you can explain.