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Postby CozmoNz » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:53 pm

k i wanna lower my car, but ive decided against race susepsnion, or anything in the megabucks area.

i know, a few thousand on suspension is worth it, but hell, im planning on doing 1 or 2 circuts a year... maybe a few more, but nothing competitive. id rather spend cash on brake pads etc.

but eitherway, i want to lower my bi0tch . Ae111 Bz-v Superstrut trueno.

now, shes rather high in the front and lower*ier in the back because its got munro struts in the back.

so im plannng on replacing the lot, all 4 struts, and all 4 springs, to give her a nice low ride, but still comfortable. (meaning, what ive got now), i dont want much more bumpie bumpie :D.

ill add in a hard anti sway bar from trd later on but thats probably all, then maybe a few $$$ into the brakes. and that will be all until i can make alot more money.

so anyway, does anyone make a specific superstrut lowering strut? (non ajudstable, i want this to be cheap but effective).

i asked this at tech, the resonce *cut ur springs bro* was heard..... i now ignore their ignorance :D. so - what can i do!
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Postby Leon » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:36 am

Mmmm, dunno about your model specifically, but I've got my AE92 on a KYB gas shock, King combination, with a whiteline adjustable rear sway bar.

It's choppy on the road, but nice on the track.

Definitely stay away from super lows if you want the car to handle rather than merely look phat.
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Postby Dr-X » Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:48 pm

I dont really know why I'm bothering to reply, because you obviously dont know ANYTHING. Anyway, cutting springs is a legitimate way to lower a car on the cheap, and it can be done safely.

FYI - You cannot lower you car AND maintain a nice ride. It simply doesnt happen. Lowering car = less comfortable ride. There is no other equation. Now, I asume you're just going for looks, not handling, otherwise you'd leave it as it is, or pay the big bucks for the good stuff. So the answer here it simple - go to your favoured suspension dealer, and order some lowering springs. And if you're keen, some new shocks. Not too sure why you want the shocks...but whatever.
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Postby CozmoNz » Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:13 am

keep the orig suspension, funny that, the owner before me got rid of the back struts...

so i cant do that, unless someone has some GREAT back struts, in good working order, willing to sell very cheap ill go for that idea.

and yes, i do want handeling, but a $3000 set from japan isnt within my budget or any other big blow out, i know koni and such make some cheaper coil over srut setups that arnt that expensive, $1400 total.

i was hoping someone - like yourself, knew, but hey, why bother asking, keep the insults comming :)

and lower my car but MAINTAIN the CURRENT ride. its already bumpy as hell, with low profiles, and suspension as is, just some softer springs and harder struts :).
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Postby RedQueen » Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:53 am

CozmoNz wrote:I was hoping someone - like yourself, knew, but hey, why bother asking, keep the insults comming :)


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Postby Al » Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:53 am

Dr-X wrote:I dont really know why I'm bothering to reply, because you obviously dont know ANYTHING.


Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black there.
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Postby levin_it_large » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:14 am

cant u just feel the love!!! :lol:
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Postby RipOff » Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:37 pm

If you want to learn for yourself I found some very good suspension tuning information on this website (www.drifting.com)

Lowering the car can be one.. and that changes your suspension geometry. So yea... you'd need to change them springs etc. IT is possible if you get good springs and get the "right" components. But yea... depends how mechanicalled inclined you are.

One option you have is to lower the components and reduce the ride height only slightly. I.E lower the engine, the driver.. (this is something I've only read about) so take that with a grain of salt etc.

in general lower spring = less spring travel = harder ride. However if you spend a little more money you can set up a custom suspension setup which still allows full(ish) spring travel. But yea... unless you can get it at mates rates it's very expensive. (Or do it yourself)
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Postby strap-on » Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:39 pm

Al wrote:
Dr-X wrote:I dont really know why I'm bothering to reply, because you obviously dont know ANYTHING.


Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black there.


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with my car man, i just got some kyb gas struts, they are around 700 bucks for a whole set im not sure how it works with superstrut, the best bet would be to get in contact with george stock's and co. and if it exists they will tell you,

i then put in some cobra 30 mm lowering springs, it made the ride slightly bumpier, but bearable ya know? and it is a bit lower and the handling is awesome the springs cost me round 400 bucks

hope this helps
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Re: on its arse?

Postby JT » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:23 pm

CozmoNz wrote:shes rather high in the front and lower*ier in the back because its got munro struts in the back.


Shocks keep the wheels on the road, springs keep the car up. So your munro shocks are not going to change the height.

If I was you I would get some TRD adjustable front shocks and some TRD rear shocks. You could get some custom springs made by chamberlins or similar with the exact height and spring rate you want.
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Postby CozmoNz » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:47 pm

tru tru.

i didnt put the munros in so meh.

how about those *toms ae111 suspension* from here: http://www.trdsales.com/shop/product.asp?catcode=259

it looks non super strut and very expensive... is it worth it?
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Postby NZ_AE86 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:00 pm

Dr-X wrote:I dont really know why I'm bothering to reply, because you obviously dont know ANYTHING. Anyway, cutting springs is a legitimate way to lower a car on the cheap, and it can be done safely.



You may not cut springs on a road vehicle, you can get some cut springs cert'd but then you have just blown your lowering on the cheap theory! Maybe you should not reply unless you have something constructive to write. :P :twisted: :!:

Get some good KYB or Koni shocks and then you choice of springs for height, obviously the lower you go to worse ride quaility will be due to lack of travel but this is up to you. :D
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Postby Dr-X » Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:55 pm

NZ_AE86 wrote:
Dr-X wrote:I dont really know why I'm bothering to reply, because you obviously dont know ANYTHING. Anyway, cutting springs is a legitimate way to lower a car on the cheap, and it can be done safely.



You may not cut springs on a road vehicle, you can get some cut springs cert'd but then you have just blown your lowering on the cheap theory! Maybe you should not reply unless you have something constructive to write. :P :twisted: :!:

Get some good KYB or Koni shocks and then you choice of springs for height, obviously the lower you go to worse ride quaility will be due to lack of travel but this is up to you. :D

I didnt say it was legal, I said it was safe. And it can quite easily be done so no one would notice.
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Postby NZ_AE86 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:48 pm

Hmmm,

Legitimate - Lawful, Rightful, Legal, Genuine, Valid etc etc! :lol:

Hope this helps :P
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Postby Xyrath 86 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:04 pm

Just cut them and then paint them, Or compress them and then paint them, put some TRD stickers or somthin on them and then you have cheap TRD springs. To the warrent guy they are trd's anyway as far as he knows. Just gotta make sure ya shocks are the right height too.
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Postby qik20v » Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:47 pm

but cut springs dont handle, because they put the shocks on their bumpstops (no suspension travel).

he wants it lower and to handle, so basically some replacement gas shorter shocks (so you still have adequate travel) and then some replacement springs (off the shelf or custom)

its probably best to talk to a suspension shop i.e. george stock and ask their advice, (as it is their job after all)
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Postby Distrb » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:14 pm

Xyrath 86 wrote:Just cut them and then paint them, Or compress them and then paint them, put some TRD stickers or somthin on them and then you have cheap TRD springs. To the warrent guy they are trd's anyway as far as he knows. Just gotta make sure ya shocks are the right height too.


muppets who do this deserve to crash their car because of it and die...

that is all
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Postby wde_bdy » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:24 pm

qik20v wrote:but cut springs dont handle, because they put the shocks on their bumpstops (no suspension travel).


Definitely not defending cut springs, but whatever spring you use if it gives a lower ride height it puts you closer to the bump stops. The only way around this is different/shorter shocks (and possibly modified struts). As for being lower in the back with the munro's it may well be if the spring seats are at a different height (assuming its a full strut and not an insert).

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Postby NZ_AE86 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:45 pm

Distrb wrote:
Xyrath 86 wrote:Just cut them and then paint them, Or compress them and then paint them, put some TRD stickers or somthin on them and then you have cheap TRD springs. To the warrent guy they are trd's anyway as far as he knows. Just gotta make sure ya shocks are the right height too.


muppets who do this deserve to crash their car because of it and die...

that is all



Well put Disturb. Safety laws are there for a reason and although some springs can be cut safely, alot cannot. :roll:
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Postby strap-on » Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:55 pm

Distrb wrote:
Xyrath 86 wrote:Just cut them and then paint them, Or compress them and then paint them, put some TRD stickers or somthin on them and then you have cheap TRD springs. To the warrent guy they are trd's anyway as far as he knows. Just gotta make sure ya shocks are the right height too.


muppets who do this deserve to crash their car because of it and die...

that is all


wat scares me is that this guy may indeed own or drive an ae86


i have realised that mayb with the exception of the exhaust law the laws about cars ARE actually there not to stop us having fun, but to stop us killing ourselves
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