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Postby Xylotrope » Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:49 am

Wondering what ratio is safe for use on a bluetop 4age ... and will the ECU freak out on it ... ?

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Postby Bazda » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:41 am

should be no problem
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Postby Leon » Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:57 pm

If you have an O2 sensor, using leaded fuel will cause it to stop working.

Also, its probably a total waste of money, unless you are running a lot of compression (or boost).
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Postby Monsterbishi » Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:30 pm

Leon wrote:If you have an O2 sensor, using leaded fuel will cause it to stop working.

Also, its probably a total waste of money, unless you are running a lot of compression (or boost).


You can use leaded fuel with a normal o2 sensor for short periods without any problems.
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Postby Logan » Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:42 pm

also mean that since you have more octance, you have better knock prevention and can dial in some more advance...
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Postby Bazda » Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:04 pm

i never knew that a o2 sensor bungs up using leaded fuel, as when the cars were made 96 octane was leaded
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Postby slithr » Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:11 pm

It destroys the catalytic converter not sure about the O2 sensor though
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Postby Leon » Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:22 pm

slithr wrote:It destroys the catalytic converter not sure about the O2 sensor though

Both :)

Totally forgot about cat converters with my first reply!
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Postby Logan » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:12 pm

Another trick is the first of the efi flacooons used a lead friendly o2 sensors...and something else but i cant remember....
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Postby RunningRich » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:14 pm

Bazda wrote:i never knew that a o2 sensor bungs up using leaded fuel, as when the cars were made 96 octane was leaded


Then you are sadly uninformed. 96 may have been leaded in NZ, but these cars were not made for our market. NZ new models (like AW11 etc) had no O2 sensor.

Leaded fuel *will* kill an O2 sensor.
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Postby Xylotrope » Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:05 pm

So the verdict is ?

good for short periods ?

No good at all ! .. shags ya cat an o2 sensor !

Hmmm

thanks for all that info !?

not so keen any more ?
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Postby Monsterbishi » Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:31 pm

Howabouts you do a google search, it will explain why long term use is bad for the Cat and O2.
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Postby Bazda » Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:40 pm

well i beleive u guys cos i have no idea.
so if used for the drags is ok then.
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Postby vvega » Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:31 pm

lead is a cumlative problem
wile running for short periods will be ok in the short eun
it slowly blocks the sensor up(easy way to put it)
and the deposits do not disapear so you just keep adding on the deposits
runn it full time or for short periods
your o2 sensor will last about the same time overall

or
you could just go buy a lead friendly one
and remove the cat

but hell ahy do it properly ??

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Postby matt dunn » Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:39 pm

RunningRich wrote:
Then you are sadly uninformed. 96 may have been leaded in NZ, but these cars were not made for our market. NZ new models (like AW11 etc) had no O2 sensor.

Leaded fuel *will* kill an O2 sensor.


Yes nz new models had a mixture adjustment screw instead of a O2 sensor because of lead.

The falcon leaded sensors are lead resistive non lead capable.
They are expensive compared to normal but do last for ages on lead
(but not forever )
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Postby EVLGTZ » Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:57 am

matt dunn wrote:Yes nz new models had a mixture adjustment screw instead of a O2 sensor because of lead.

The falcon leaded sensors are lead resistive non lead capable.
They are expensive compared to normal but do last for ages on lead
(but not forever )


ahh we found one of them mixture adjustment screws on me mates NZGT, was wondering why it was there :idea:
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Postby dohca » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:26 pm

they are acctually just the same sensor but with a sheilding over the sensor with a small hole in it to stop damage to the sensor over a long period of time...

if your bluetop is stock just use 98 octane...
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Postby Xylotrope » Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:23 pm

Yes that seems to give it a kick in the chops ....

I think ill stick to that !


Thanks for all your input everyone

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Postby Al » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:05 pm

Where do i get a lead friendly o2 sensor?

I've run about half a dozen tanks of racegas since ive had the car....*touch wood* hasnt pulled any codes yet 8O
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Postby matt dunn » Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:01 am

Al wrote:Where do i get a lead friendly o2 sensor?

I've run about half a dozen tanks of racegas since ive had the car....*touch wood* hasnt pulled any codes yet 8O


They are a bosch product and we could get hold of them quite easily but now they appear to be available through ford dealers as a genuine part.

I have an old one under my bench at work, If i remember i'll post up the numbers off it.

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