st205 dyno'd - feed back please

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

Or is Santa right

Santa's always right

[TRDmod]

well, actually i think i hvae a scanner, at home, but i am not sure, cos, i use it for printing as i do not have a use for scanners. i work 85 hours a week, so i honestly check my emails and this site whilst at work, scanners at home, so, work and home is a different location, which means at work i dont have one, and if i did have one at home which im not sure, then i would, but to be honest i cannot be bothered, i will prob do it later.

secondly santa is not always right....i am pretty easy going and usually dont really care generally bout things, but let me get this right

are you two, if your joking thats sweet if not, IMPLYING that maybe i am making up my figures from torque performance in avondale...?
i mean ..... what would that achieve, by making it up, it would not make my car faster at all would it now? .... i will never meet you so why the BOASTING if i was lying? in fact im not boasting, i want feedback and opinions. ask yourself that......it was 206 at 15.8 psi.

i asked him to confirm and its definatley 206.

now i dont mean to pick a fight here, but ur last messages kinda really annoyed me...i mean why must you see it, i didnt ask to see yours, you already have it on ur signature, so why would i, in good faith i believe you.....but lets turn it around on you gt420....u seem like a nice guy but do you hvae some INSECURITIES? i mean are you annoyed that your car produces less power? are you annoyed that you think you know more bout this car, and here comes a check book racer....pays alot of money to pump his car up....and produces SIGNIFICANTLY MORE POWER at the wheels than yours? is that what this is all aobut, is this about EGO?
cos ego i dont have PAL....

if you want the dyno sheet, come to my store
25 chartwell ave,
dominos pizza,
i will shake your hand and say hi
and giv eyou the chart to look at,
but i try not to pursue meaningless and fruitless tasks just to show off my CURVES...if you catch my drift

thank you santa and gt420

[IH8TEC]

mate, no need to be liek this, they not trying to pick fights or crap like that, he and a few others are very knowledgable, the reason they ask for a print out, is because they, few that are good at tuning stuff, can tell ALOT from a dyno plot, you asked for feedback, with that they can probably give you more than you need.

just ignore all the ones that say your bullshit, i can understand finding time in a 85 hour week hard.

as for gt420, i think he'll be having shit loads of useable power in the very near future

they just trying to help you out and a dyno plot can really help.

best wishes for the merry season

brendon

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

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thank you santa and gt420

hey come on we're just having a bit of fun here
not taking the piss!
but do realise that there are so many blow-hards here that show up and say "yeah im making 450HP with my CT26" and then the world comes crashing down - we're too used to that happening now!

[TRDmod]

thats fair enough
well, i guess that was alil out of hand:D was jsut so fun getting carried away. im sure he will have disposable power in the near future,
but the point is that its easier to explain to me that seeing the dyno chart would help feed back, but you just had to imply its bull shi t.
anyways, fair enough, i cant put it on, but if i can i will so you can analyse it.

none the less i know about ur bulls that come here. i mean its pretty common, but hey, thats fair enough.

while we are on the subject, 206kw, what difference would a computer make, i mean theres pinz who has HALTECH or something of the sort.

reasonable price, what difference would it make, i mean i thnk all up it would be bout 2500 or something top of my head - i mean i calculated, cost me 170 or so dolars per kilowatt so far, i dont wanna push that past 200 per kw, thats gettign to much, feedf back thanks:d

sorry gt4 20, just anoyed me al il:D
see i am diplomatic:D

[GT4 20]

That was one of the funniest posts I've read for a while TRDMod
I suppose that one of the problems with a forum is that it is very easy to take things the wrong way. I guess that is why there are emoticons to help convey the message - hence the ' ' after my post.
Given that I had spent sod all $ on mine when I had it dyno'd, it's hardly suprising that yours would put out more power. Just suprised at the figure you got with so few mods. A dyno chart is always a good thing to post up as it shows a lot. I'm not bothered about who's got the most power. Give me a tight twisty closed road and we'll see who has the quickest car that way

As IH8TEC correctly says, I am currently investing a few cents in my motor and am hoping for some pretty decent figures. I don't confess to know everything am am quite happy learning from others - exactly why dyno charts can prove useful.

So in future, don't take things on here to seriously otherwise you'll end up putting your blood pressure through the roof

As for computer, you can get an Apexi Power FC for a lot less than the 2500 you quote. Simple plug in with base maps- just then need a decent dyno tune up. That's the route I'll be taking.
Gary

[RomanV]

: Give me a tight twisty closed road and we'll see who has the quickest car that way

I thought this was a thread about GT4s, not MR2s.

[TRDmod]

yeah it is about gt4s, mr2s spun out a few hundred metres after the first turn:D

apexi power fc, who would tune that up on a dyno?

most dynos actually have their own brand, and prob wont do that

can you suggest anyone who would and where i could purchase a power fc, for a good price? preferably someone that takes master card of amex cos thats better, i like the points.

over reacted, and also i found it funny typing it, and my blood pressure is always throught he roof:D

so, what power difference would one get from power fc and a full computer
?

o believe that the cheaper the price, there must be some sort of comprimise....i mean would i needt o change injectors, fuel pump etc?

[barryogen]

while we are on the subject, 206kw, what difference would a computer make, i mean theres pinz who has HALTECH or something of the sort.

reasonable price, what difference would it make, i mean i thnk all up it would be bout 2500 or something top of my head - i mean i calculated, cost me 170 or so dolars per kilowatt so far, i dont wanna push that past 200 per kw, thats gettign to much, feedf back thanks:d

Not sure on the difference it makes to all engines, but on mine(the 2zzge) I can get a plug in Apexi PowerFc that gives me 30kw for $1650, however the best thing about it is that it smoothes out a big flat spot(well, less angular) in the curves at 4000-5700RPM, and gives a much better bottom end.

Round town this is where I spend a lot of my driving, so it is "on its way" "real soon now"(when cash is availible).

I'm getting mine from EFI in chch. I don't like the Dunedin companies.

*edit*
corrected price from 1500 to 1650.

[Ako]

can you suggest anyone who would and where i could purchase a power fc, for a good price? preferably someone that takes master card of amex cos thats better, i like the points. - Click on my signature


so, what power difference would one get from power fc and a full computer? - In theory, none. The power FC IS a full computer, it completely replaces the factory ECU and each PFC is tailored to the car and engine you purchase it for. For a road car, it makes for great value for money. You CAN drive it on the base maps it comes with, but I would very strongly reccomend against it unless you drive on 100% avgas.

o believe that the cheaper the price, there must be some sort of comprimise....i mean would i need to change injectors, fuel pump etc? - Since you'd be getting the car tuned, you may as well upgrade while you're at it. Depends on how much power you're looking to make, but a fuel pump upgrade at the least is good for security, if nothing else.

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

approx cost Ako?

[RomanV]

, but on mine(the 2zzge) I can get a plug in Apexi PowerFc that gives me 30kw

Are you sure about that? IIRC The 2zz motors used for the toyota racing series only gained 10hp with a Motec computer....

When you say 'powerfc' do you really mean 'supercharger'?

[Mr Revhead]

yeah about 15hp with blueprinting, MOTEC, drysump and race exhaust...

however i dont know how aggressive they were with the tune... but i suspect they went for the best they could get....
i doubt very much youll get 30kw just by changing the ecu

[RomanV]

I doubt they would have gone too far with it... I mean they have to make 'xxx' number of engines with (theoretically) exactly the same amount of HP.... the more aggressive they tuned them, the more variation they would see between engines I would imagine.

I would imagine they tune ALL of the engines to the abilities of the least capable engine. If you know what I'm saying.

Im sure they could make them a bit more agressive if it was a 'one off' motor, rather than a whole swag of them.

[barryogen]

I'm just going on what I've been told(although from a few different sources I've been told the same, maybe it came from Apexi originally?).

It'll be dyno'd before and after, so I'll let you know.

[RomanV]

A 2zz would be fricken cool with another 30kws.

[CozmoNz]

if it dosnt get it from the ecu, im pretty sure he wont stop ...

then its going to go to far.... so youll only be able to run 2psi dave.... coz yaknow, ya only want 30kw

[barryogen]

if it dosnt get it from the ecu, im pretty sure he wont stop ...

then its going to go to far.... so youll only be able to run 2psi dave.... coz yaknow, ya only want 30kw

can't stop, wont stop... my aim is 275 at the wheels... it is somewhere near 160 at the moment (from head figuring and power to weight of known cars and their performance so basically a bullshit figure, but it'll do until dyno'd).

[sarcasm]2psi... man, I could get that from here... http://www.esuperchargers.com/ that'd be sweet, and only $14.95, although 15-20% though the entire rev band would be sweet... [/sarcasm]

[Malcolm]

stock output of a 2ZZ is 195hp right?
30kW on that makes it about 235hp (engine). That's close to a stock gen 3 3sgte....from an ecu?

[barryogen]

stock output of a 2ZZ is 195hp right?
30kW on that makes it about 235hp (engine). That's close to a stock gen 3 3sgte....from an ecu?

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/ ... gines.html
Engine Type Valv/Cyl Year Disp. BHP Torque Bore Stroke CR stock boost+other remarks
2ZZ-GE DOHC+VVTL-i 4 99- 1796 180@7600 130@6800 82 85 11.5:1
2ZZ-GE DOHC+VVTL-i 4 01- 1796 192@7800 133@6800 82 85 11.5:1 Finland


AFAIK, mines the 180BHP(crank) model, although I have no real details on it.

I believe that the 180 is metric HP not the usual measure, so it'll be off a bit too.