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Clutch / Gearbox Problems

Postby BigDon » Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:39 pm

Having problems with my FX the symptoms are as follows.

You can depress the clutch and put the car into gear except when you let the clutch out nothing happens. Just before it happened apparently there was a a bit of graunching and it didnt want to go into gear

The missus had the car at the time and I havent had a chance to have a look at it becuase its stranded at one of her friends places, but it cant move and I have had one of my mates out that way take a look at it and he has confirmed the symptoms

I used the car this morning and it was going fine so its a sudden type of thing.

Any suggestions on what it could be?

Also are there any Wellington mechanics keen to do some paid (cash) weekend work?
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Postby kingcorolla » Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:59 pm

check clutch fluid. sounds like the clutch is not engaging properly.

check for leaks, and check the resovoir level.
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Postby BigDon » Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:46 am

Got the car towed back this morning, clutch fluid is sweet.

When you put it in gear with the clutch in all you get is a grinding clunking sort of noise, doesnt sound good. Cant smell the clutch though. Will get the AA out to tell me what is wrong so I can get some quotes to get it fixed.
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Postby BigDon » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:52 pm

Go tthe AA to have a look they reckon it has done a CV joint.

Can anyone tell me what it should cost to get it fixed?

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Postby CAMB01 » Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:49 pm

Does this AA guy know what he's talking about?
A CV joint has nothing to do with the gearbox/clutch problem.
Wonder if the clutch fork has come apart from the release bearing.
Try bleeding the clutch slave cylinder and then try it.[/code]
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Postby CAMB01 » Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:50 pm

Does this AA guy know what he's talking about?
A CV joint has nothing to do with the gearbox/clutch problem.
Wonder if the clutch fork has come apart from the release bearing.
Try bleeding the clutch slave cylinder and then try it.
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Postby matt dunn » Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:38 pm

Put the car in gear with the engine off and give the starter a quick flick.
The car should jump forward. If it does it's not a cv but the clutch not disengaging
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Postby RS13 » Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:32 am

CAMB01 wrote:A CV joint has nothing to do with the gearbox/clutch problem.


:roll:

Acutally, they have everything to do with the gearbox and clutch. Any FWD gearbox with an open diff, will spin the wheel with the least traction, and all power will go to that wheel. If you shatter the bearing cage, in the CV housing, then the driveshaft will spin, chew the shit out of the CV bearing housing (hence the clunking and scraping noise), the spider gears in the diff will do their thing, and all power will go to the broken CV, which isn't turning the wheel, hence the car goes nowhere.

Just jump under the car, grab the driveshaft, and give it a good tug. If you still can't tell, put it in gear, and see which side makes the noise.. hey, its not like its gonna get more broken!

It would more than likely have massive play, or have ripped chunks outta the CV boot itself. Its no biggie, I've done it a couple of times in my old Integra, (trying to do full lock burnouts!) I just purchased a complete driveshaft with CVs out of a wrecker, was around $120 from memory (bloody Strongs!).

You need a long, long power bar or muscles for Africa to get the hubnut undone, once you've done that, drop the shock, pull the knackered driveshaft (with CVs) out, replace it with the good one, remember to torque up the hub nut, refit shock, all done. It took me around an hour to do the whole job.

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Postby BigDon » Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:53 pm

Cheers for the info RS13, it is the gearbox side thats making the noise, I have had it towed to my mechanic to get it sorted as I dont have a garage where I am.
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Postby Muzzie » Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:58 pm

RS13 wrote:
CAMB01 wrote:A CV joint has nothing to do with the gearbox/clutch problem.


:roll:

Acutally, they have everything to do with the gearbox and clutch. Any FWD gearbox with an open diff, will spin the wheel with the least traction, and all power will go to that wheel. If you shatter the bearing cage, in the CV housing, then the driveshaft will spin, chew the sh*t out of the CV bearing housing (hence the clunking and scraping noise), the spider gears in the diff will do their thing, and all power will go to the broken CV, which isn't turning the wheel, hence the car goes nowhere.

Just jump under the car, grab the driveshaft, and give it a good tug. If you still can't tell, put it in gear, and see which side makes the noise.. hey, its not like its gonna get more broken!

It would more than likely have massive play, or have ripped chunks outta the CV boot itself. Its no biggie, I've done it a couple of times in my old Integra, (trying to do full lock burnouts!) I just purchased a complete driveshaft with CVs out of a wrecker, was around $120 from memory (bloody Strongs!).

You need a long, long power bar or muscles for Africa to get the hubnut undone, once you've done that, drop the shock, pull the knackered driveshaft (with CVs) out, replace it with the good one, remember to torque up the hub nut, refit shock, all done. It took me around an hour to do the whole job.

Hope this helps!


I shat two right hand CV joints in my Diamante within a week! Hard acceleration while cornering was what killed them or so my mechanic said) and I wasn;t doing burnouts either - I knew the Diamantes are notorious for gearbox problems.
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Postby BigDon » Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:19 pm

All sorted cost $220 for a new CV joint including labour. The mechanic said he had never seen one disintergrate like that before, must be the mighty underpowered silver tops torque.
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