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by **cat007** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:24 pm

Anyone experience these engines?

My brother just bought a 2001 Fielder with one of these engines. Crazy they rev to 8K!

Anyway - thinking of buying these plugs:

NGK BKR6EIX-11

Can get them on trademe for $70....

by **petercad** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:33 pm

I got a Fielder with this engine in it
They're great, just get the lift bolts replaced - see this thread:
http://www.users.on.net/~nbenjamin/tech/liftbolts/

Did mine on the weekend, and surely the inlet one snapped, so I'd recommend taking to a mechanic and getting them done

Also, re: Spark Plugs.
Recently did mine, bought Bosch ones from Supercheap, they were Bosch F8-4, FGR6DQI and $70 for a pack of 4 as well, but didn't get stung for freight, and got 10% off with a trade card too

See here:
http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online- ... escription

Website · by **Bling** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:40 pm

I'd price up plugs through our Toyota Sponsor too.

by **cat007** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:40 pm

Awesome

Thanks for that.

Have you had any issues with the engine?

by **cat007** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:44 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:I'd price up plugs through our Toyota Sponsor too.

Will do!

by **cat007** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:56 pm

http://www.users.on.net/~nbenjamin/tech ... tbolts.pdf

by **captain crescent** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:00 pm

Ive got two a runx daily and a Allex race car. i replaced my plugs with genuine ones from Mark (Toyota sponsor) they are a little more pricey but you know they are right.

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:31 pm

Wouldnt use Bosch plugs, Denso or NGK are the way

by **petercad** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:28 pm

Each to their own.
Used Bosch many times, as well as NGK also, and never had a fault with either one.
Same sort of thing as individual preferences with tyres/oils/polish/etc, etc

by **sergei** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:36 am

petercad wrote:Each to their own.
Used Bosch many times, as well as NGK also, and never had a fault with either one.
Same sort of thing as individual preferences with tyres/oils/polish/etc, etc

Bosch is made where? Thailand if you are lucky, usually China.
NGK and Denso are made in Japan. NGK and Denso are OEM suppliers and spark plugs will be perfect fit.

by **allencr** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:54 am

Never buy any plugs until you see what's in there & their condition so you'll know whether a range change is useful or necessary.
Also, never buy steel(copper advertising BS) if you aren't going to look at them again for 50,000, or platinum/iridium if you are.

Website · by **Bling** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:04 pm

I've always just put factory plugs in, no problems with running. I just have to remember to change them every 10,000km.

sergei wrote:Bosch is made where? Thailand if you are lucky, usually China.

You can't judge the quality of something purely by the country of origin. Just FYI, I know you hate Chinese products, i'm "just saying".

by **matt dunn** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:05 pm

Bosch universal spark plugs, lol.

there are about 40 different NGK plugs that all cross over to one bosch spark plug,
they dont have the range for the japanese market.

We will fit them to merc's or BMW's where the spark plus are visable,
but anything japanese or has the plugs buried under coils etc where they get no cooling we will normally use NGK.

by **Makaveli** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:41 pm

I bought some genuine Toyota OEM Spark Plugs. Copper ones are like $3 each. They are good for 30,000km. Iridium ones around $20 and they last for 100,000km. You do the maths.

That was for my 2JZ-GTE.

by **Lloyd** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:59 pm

You cant simply swap copper plugs into an engine designed to take Iridium plugs in all cases, you can get away with it in some cases but not all.

And as for Bosch... they belong in cars that came out with Bosch plugs. Aussie stuff and american stuff doesn't always run well on NGKs, likewise with Japanese engines and Bosch plugs.

by **cat007** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:22 pm

I can't help but think of lawn mowers when I think of champion tho lol

Website · by **Bling** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:55 pm

30,000km on a copper plug?? I thought their life was ~10,000km. Yeah or nah?

by **allencr** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:34 am

Spark plugs just have to spark & they have to stay hot enough to burn carbon off the insulator so it doesn't conduct, that's all!!! Different materials control its longevity, how long its gap will remain the same width with out eroding from the arc.

Copper hasn't been used for 70+ years except for a tiny bit placed inside, doing nothing special, that attracts the gullible with 100%BS advertising, cause everyone with 'common sense' knows that copper is a good conductor, so it must be great for spark plugs.

by **Lloyd** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:58 am

BZG|Bling wrote:30,000km on a copper plug?? I thought their life was ~10,000km. Yeah or nah?

Nah 30k is about average

allencr wrote:Spark plugs just have to spark & they have to stay hot enough to burn carbon off the insulator so it doesn't conduct, that's all!!! Different materials control its longevity, how long its gap will remain the same width with out eroding from the arc.

Ummm.... no thats wrong. Different materials and different profiles of electrodes greatly affect how an engine performs, and sometimes if it will ever run or not. A spark doesn't mean ignition will occur in the right way just because there is a spark there.

by **matt dunn** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:52 pm

Lloyd wrote:Ummm.... no thats wrong. Different materials and different profiles of electrodes greatly affect how an engine performs, and sometimes if it will ever run or not. A spark doesn't mean ignition will occur in the right way just because there is a spark there.

Yeah,

try putting the wrong plugs in an early 90's RS legacy and se how far you get before it gives problems.

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