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Postby Rice_Burner » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:45 pm

Hey everyone.

im new to this site and after a fair bit of time searching over the forum without any luck of finding some info. just wanted to know, are parts off any of the 4A-GE's compatabile with the 4A-FE, for example i have a Ae111 trueno with a 4A-FE and i was after a short shifter, but all i can find are 4A-GE 20v blacktop shortshifters, i also had a problem with my injectors, they are getting old and i suspect they are due for replacement, can i replace them with 4AGE injectors? Any help considering the chop and changeable parts between the two engines would be appreciated as im always up to tinker arround with my car.

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Re: 4A-FE & 4A-GE

Postby solitaire » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:29 pm

Rice_Burner wrote:Hey everyone.

im new to this site and after a fair bit of time searching over the forum without any luck of finding some info. just wanted to know, are parts off any of the 4A-GE's compatabile with the 4A-FE, for example i have a Ae111 trueno with a 4A-FE and i was after a short shifter, but all i can find are 4A-GE 20v blacktop shortshifters, i also had a problem with my injectors, they are getting old and i suspect they are due for replacement, can i replace them with 4AGE injectors? Any help considering the chop and changeable parts between the two engines would be appreciated as im always up to tinker arround with my car.

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Short shifter is in cabin, to the best of my knowledge the shifter cable connection points are the same (would make no sense for toyota to manufacture a different gear shifter mechanism for different engines in the same cabin)

As for injectors? I am not 100% sure but my gut feeling is they would be different. Why do you think they need to be replaced?

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Postby dnalunchie » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:42 pm

Hey mate, welcome to the forum, you may want to ask a Moderator to shift this to the TECH section as you will get more responses
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Postby Rice_Burner » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:44 pm

Thanks guys!
ill have to look into the short shifter then, may ring up toyota and see what they know.
in terms of my injectors. i think one or more could be on there way out because of a couple reasons.
1. it has a sort of abrupt engine power, as in power wont be smooth throughout the rev range.
2. my idle has recently turned rough, its hard to describe but it abruptly fluxuates around idle revs. which i think is maybe 1 or more injectors not firing when it should.
3. significant reduced gas mileage

to my knowledge i would think that would narrow it down either fuel filter, or injectors. i think maybe before moving onto injectors ill change out the fuel filter and see what happens from there

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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:48 pm

Rice_Burner wrote:Thanks guys!
ill have to look into the short shifter then, may ring up toyota and see what they know.
in terms of my injectors. i think one or more could be on there way out because of a couple reasons.
1. it has a sort of abrupt engine power, as in power wont be smooth throughout the rev range.
2. my idle has recently turned rough, its hard to describe but it abruptly fluxuates around idle revs. which i think is maybe 1 or more injectors not firing when it should.
3. significant reduced gas mileage

to my knowledge i would think that would narrow it down either fuel filter, or injectors. i think maybe before moving onto injectors ill change out the fuel filter and see what happens from there

thanks again guys. appreciate it


All of those could also be ignition related.
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Postby Rice_Burner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:06 am

Hmmm, thats also a factor. Ive just done the spark plugs and leads. So could it be something to do with the distributor ir rotor or something like that?

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Postby stolic » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:47 am

Sounds exactly like the symptoms my flatmates old 4afe corolla had.
I pulled off the dizzy cap and cleaned the rotor and lead points with a small wire brush.. this kept it going until he replaced them 8)
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Postby Shrike » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:14 am

4afe injectors from memory are top feed so no 4age injectors off a blactop/silvertop wont fit
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Postby Rice_Burner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:57 am

What about off the older 4age motors?
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Postby Rice_Burner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:21 pm

So. I took out my fuel rail and injectors and 2 out of 4 of them have external cracks which in turn have been leaking. Just great.... So if anyone knows if I can use any slightly higher cc injectors would be much appericated cheers!
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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:44 pm

Unless you've done some reasonably substantial mods, bigger injectors are a waste of time.
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Postby Rice_Burner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:40 pm

i was interested in 4A-GE injectors because i can get a hold of them alot easyer than 4A-FE injectors, not to bothered about performance.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:03 pm

There will be a dozen at any given time at Pick a part? 4AFE's are hardly uncommon.
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Postby Rice_Burner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:24 pm

something i would have thought aswel, but at my local pick a part there are none left at the moment.
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Postby AE111_JAMES » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:55 pm

you might be alright with 16v injectors but just whether have the same fittings at the end..how about going for 7afe injectors if they have any difference?
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Postby rollaholic » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:13 pm

4AFEs have 16 valves too :P

get the correct injectors to match what you have, its only going to cause you grief otherwise.
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Postby Rice_Burner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:35 pm

Sweet, if i cant find any injectors soon, i guess ill have to fork out and buy genuine. thanks for all the advice guys!
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:41 pm

Rice_Burner wrote:Sweet, if i cant find any injectors soon, i guess ill have to fork out and buy genuine. thanks for all the advice guys!


Probably cheaper to buy a whole second hand engine than two new TGP injectors. :)
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Postby Bling » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:41 am

Or get yours tested and cleaned if you think that's where the issue lays. You'll know for sure then if they are good or not.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:12 pm

He said earlier on they're cracked...would just keep an eye on pick a part, wouldnt buy a new genuine injector if I could avoid it!
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