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What motor and box?

Postby FST4RD » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:50 am

Basically I have a blank slate. My Mitsi Starion doesn't have a motor or box at the moment, but I'm looking to change that.
This is going to be a track car only. Motor and box must be reliable, not looking at huge hp, just enough to have some fun.
I do have a sohc 4g63t and Starion box in the other car which I could use, but not powerful enough and Starion boxs aren't the best. I could do the dohc conversion and put an rx7 savanna box behind it. But I was thinking bigger perhaps.
I want to budget for around $3k for motor, box, loom etc not including install costs. The car used to have a 302 v8 in it, but that with the custom mounts are long gone.
I think a turbo 1jz/2jz is probably over budget. Another 302 and 5 speed? 1uz? Sr20det?
What are people's thoughts?
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby FST4RD » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:52 am

I can get custom mounts out of the state's to drop a 1jz/2jz straight in for under $400nzd landed, but still think a decent motor, box, loom and ecu will be too much.
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby Stu- » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:05 pm

Not very original but why not just go for an evo 4g63?
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby FST4RD » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:27 pm

Well I can put the evo or vr4 head on mine, there is a mazda bell housing that allows you to fit a rx7 savanna box, which are good boxs.
But was thinking if it was cheap enough to say get a 1uz, manual box wouldn't this be a better option for the track?
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby Stu- » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:55 pm

Depends on how much power your after I guess. You'll end up spending quite a bit buying a 1uz, bellhousing, box, flywheel, clutch and ecu, and while it will sound cool you wont make oodles of power without opening the engine or adding turbo etc. Where as a dirty old 4g63 you can just wind more boost in or fit a bigger turbo. Tried and true I guess and relatively easy to squeeze power out of them. 1j/2j would be awesome but still quite spendy
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby FST4RD » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:26 pm

I would ideally love a 2jz non turbo, itb, cams, headers etc something that sounds crazy and revs close to 10k with a r154 behind it. But that would be a little out of the price range :(
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby GDII » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:42 pm

4G63 sounds like a good idea. I know nothing about them but they sound great and RWD in a Starion would be great to see.
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby touge_ae101 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:50 pm

There is a box from a 2wd syangyong (eww) ute which fits to the back of a 4g63. Wreckers have oodles of them from written off pieces or crap so are cheap as chips. also strong as buggary from being in a ute

Think they are a merc box originally - all I know is lampola make a dog kit for them. know a guy is putting on behind his Ex lancer he's building for Silverfern Rally.
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby FST4RD » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:42 pm

touge_ae101 wrote:There is a box from a 2wd syangyong (eww) ute which fits to the back of a 4g63. Wreckers have oodles of them from written off pieces or crap so are cheap as chips. also strong as buggary from being in a ute

Think they are a merc box originally - all I know is lampola make a dog kit for them. know a guy is putting on behind his Ex lancer he's building for Silverfern Rally.


Do you think you could find out what motor/model they came from?
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby touge_ae101 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:21 pm

I'll do some asking
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby phoenix » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:59 pm

http://www.synergypower.co.nz/

Anybody know how much those cost?
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby STR » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:05 pm

Synergy V8s start at about $30k :|
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby 1I1 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:52 pm

Mazda FE with a hair dryer bolted on the side?

Went for a ride in a KE70 drift car with this engine swap. $200 wrecker motor seemed to go well, 300hp at the wheels iirc.
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:02 am

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Re: What motor and box?

Postby RS13 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:09 am

FST4RD wrote:I would ideally love a 2jz non turbo, itb, cams, headers etc something that sounds crazy and revs close to 10k with a r154 behind it. But that would be a little out of the price range :(


I'll just put this here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SRBzefc3Rs

However with $3k, I'd suggest an RB25DET. You could get a complete front cut for not much more than $3K. Bigger turbo, fuel pump, injectors and a tune and you'd have a solid 350-400hp.
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Re: What motor and box?

Postby MAC_HATER » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:18 am

Win Lotto and go for the beasty 2JZ-GE

and one of these:

http://www.titanmotorsports.com/titan-3 ... r-kit.html

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Re: What motor and box?

Postby FST4RD » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:37 pm

RS13 wrote:
FST4RD wrote:I would ideally love a 2jz non turbo, itb, cams, headers etc something that sounds crazy and revs close to 10k with a r154 behind it. But that would be a little out of the price range :(


I'll just put this here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SRBzefc3Rs

However with $3k, I'd suggest an RB25DET. You could get a complete front cut for not much more than $3K. Bigger turbo, fuel pump, injectors and a tune and you'd have a solid 350-400hp.


That would be nice...
Not too sure about having an RB... even my Nissan a holic friends bag them...
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