NA Skyline's any good?

[Emperor]

I really want an R34,
The stock NA models are about 15K these days, so I was going to get one in a few months.
I would prefer the GT-T model over a stock one, but so expensive to buy and insure, so I was thinking just get an NA one for now and add a turbo kit later on.

Are NA Skyline's good at all? I'm talking as a drift car spec.

[anthonym]

I really want an R34,
The stock NA models are about 15K these days, so I was going to get one in a few months.
I would prefer the GT-T model over a stock one, but so expensive to buy and insure, so I was thinking just get an NA one for now and add a turbo kit later on.

Are NA Skyline's good at all? I'm talking as a drift car spec.

In case you hadn't noticed this is a Toyota forum, and there's nothing any Skyline can do that a Toyota can't do better . Indeed, for that sort of money why not buy an Altezza? Even an AS200 would be better than a porcine R34. IMO of course YMMV.

[Adamal]

Well Nemesis... I dunno about that. I prefer to think of Nissan and Toyota as equals

Anyhoo, If you were planning on doing a turbo, I'd either get one now or wait til you're older (insurance). The cost of converting (note the word converting, not bolting on) an RB25DE (or RB20DE) is not a cheap one.
There's the compression to start off with, gearbox would need an upgrade, a lot of plumbing required and parts to replace.
THEN lets say you get that all done, there will be trouble shooting on top of that, as something is bound to not go right.
All in all, it'd save you time and money in the end.

N/A is alright though, it's got enough torque to pull the heavy thing along.
Oh, and the R34 is by far the sexiest Skyline there is

[Monsterbishi]

As much as I love my Toyota's, Opels & Mitsubishi's, For durability and over-engineeringing the award goes to Nissan anyday...

[PumpN]

If your after a car that is cheap, easy to insure and cheap to drift your looking at the wrong model, get an R32 and you will want a turbo they are 2L turbos not 2.5's so they might be slightly easier to insure and their are tons of spare parts like bumpers and guards should you smack it up which you will.

[GT-R Glenn]

and there's nothing any Skyline can do that a Toyota can't do better

Ummm ok , you turn up to the next track day and we can see if you can keep up with me ....
Anyway. dont buy an r34 with the intention of blowing it at a later date, it is easier to drop a different engine in.
Unless you are hellbent on an r34 buy a cheaper car like the other guys say like an r32 t or something ...
drifting is expensive on panels when you are learning .....

[Emperor]

Well, The GTR R34s are damn expensive, but the GT-Ts are around $25K, but even that's still expensive.
So you think it's okay to go with an NA and then do a conversion when insurance will be cheaper? Or save for the GT-T and try to fork out money for the insurance, *IF* they will insure it.
And yes, I thought about the R32 because it's cheaper. But you see, my father's importing a car for me from Japan, as he owns a car wholesaler business. So an R32 can't be imported.
NA R34's are quite cheap from Japan, so are the GT-Ts but dad won't buy me a turbo car, for one reason. He thinks I won't be able to handle it.
I agree, i'll need to learn how to handle a 2.5 Turbo, I mean, I can handle a 2.3 NA, that's still semi powerful.

[jr007]

NA Skyline = POO with a capital OOOOOOO











please note, I have no substantial basis for this wild and probably inaccurate accusation except tho say that TOYOTA is where it's at. Get a Supra up ur arse if your gonna spend that kind of cash!

[Emperor]

NA Skyline = POO with a capital OOOOOOO











please note, I have no substantial basis for this wild and probably inaccurate accusation except tho say that TOYOTA is where it's at. Get a Supra up ur arse if your gonna spend that kind of cash!

I was looking more for information on the good and bad sides of NA Skylines, not wether you think they suck or not.
And I hate the Supra.

[Shotgun]

An unusual nugget of useful information: a year ago at Turners we sold a straight, medium kms, white, manual R34 coupe for 10500.

And before anyone argues that it was probably busted... it wasn't.

Oh, and r30/1s coupes are the best skylines.

[Twolitre]

One thing to remember is that the NA skylines don't have the large brakes like the turbo models and are still quite heavy 1340Kg for an R34 GT RB25DE even though it still puts out 200ps apparently.
Another model to consider is a non turbo Silvia S14/S15 with about 150Kg less than the skyline would probably be more fun to drive.

[Emperor]

Yeah, the main to cars i'm looking at are the S14 and R34.
I really like the R34s shape and all, but the 2 door models are hard to find.
Where as all S14s are 2 door, and a bit cheaper.

[Twolitre]

Yeah, the main to cars i'm looking at are the S14 and R34.
I really like the R34s shape and all, but the 2 door models are hard to find.
Where as all S14s are 2 door, and a bit cheaper.

Have you driven either of them? Maybe you could find someone in the nissan club to take you for a drive in one or both to help make your mind up or test pilot a couple of dealer cars.

[anthonym]

Ummm ok , you turn up to the next track day and we can see if you can keep up with me ....

If my humble 2wd 2L MR2 hadn't already comprehensively destroyed a mighty GT-R at the track I might have taken you up on that . As it is I have nothing to prove. I stand by my comment, I clearly noted it as an opinion, YMMV, and I suspect I know a lot more about Skylines, and GT-Rs in particular, than you think. You and others may choose to deify them and I respect that, but I'd have the HKS Track Attack Altezza or the JUN Supra over any GT-R in a picosecond. I'd take the motor out of the Supra and put it in an Altezza though .

[FLAWLES]

wow i have alway thought that this site was for toyo lovers of al kinds but a skyline please
i think we will just add you to the list of hey look at me im in a skyline commadore gsr , evo club of asre bandits who think they have one up on eveybody that was me two cents you can keep the change

but umm yes why not buy a s13 or 14 buy a gtst crossmeber and slap a rb20 or 25 u will have a n-sane straight line car and a wicky dori car hell both my mates have done this to a " the one at the mt as done it to a s13 " and the other one in hams with a s14

and by the way the top secret supra " the gold 2jz model not the white one with the rb in it sacralidge " for the hell nail the coppas to the wall and yes the hks altezza for bracking lap records iamgine what you could do with that car in nz

[FLAWLES]

i forgfot to add this

as for " balh balh blah come to the next track day blah blah blah you see if you can keep up with me " well mr i blow gtr's i have seen countless mr2 and ma70 supras nail skylines done the back straight at puke hell i have even seen a turbod 86 do one over " even no it was realy realy close i have even got pics of it. the 86 was a white notch back

so

[Emperor]

but umm yes why not buy a s13 or 14 buy a gtst crossmeber and slap a rb20 or 25 u will have a n-sane straight line car and a wicky dori car hell both my mates have done this to a " the one at the mt as done it to a s13 " and the other one in hams with a s14

I don't like the S13.

And I don't care if a Supra or MR2 blew a GTR down the back straight.
I'm looking to tune it up to D1 spec, and if I remember correctly a GT-T Skyline won the last D1 event[Not sure if it was Japan or USA] and it kicked a Supra's ass.

[Emperor]

and by the way the top secret supra " the gold 2jz model not the white one with the rb in it sacralidge " for the hell nail the coppas to the wall and yes the hks altezza for bracking lap records iamgine what you could do with that car in nz

I prefer the Topsecret S15.

[FLAWLES]

i do not knw who won the last d1 champ in the land of the rising sun but i do know this

ae86 were some of the first cars to be drifted around the mountins of japan and are widly sort after and there for they are the true kings of dori racing

who makes ae86s i here u ask.....................

TOYOTA

Thank you my work here is done

[Emperor]

Well yes, Tsuchiya did win the JGTC in a Hachi Roku but he uses an NSX now.

I'm not looking for "Toyota kills Nissan" I've already stated this, i'm looking for helpful information on the Skyline, not if you think Toyota is better.