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could a N/A redtop do low 14s?

Postby low_rider » Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:38 pm

could a smallport 4age do low 14s without being turbo?
if so what would you have to do

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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:42 pm

Put it in a KP Starlet, with good drag suspension and slicks, and the usual bolt ons, it ought to be able to pull it off
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Postby low_rider » Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:43 pm

i was thinking in a fx or a levin
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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:25 pm

Big cams, new ECU, maybe a bit of porting...basically the less weight the faster you can go eh :D
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Postby low_rider » Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:26 pm

how much should you ecpect to pay for a port n polish?
is it worth the money?
also what sorta price would it be for a nice set of cams?
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Postby strap-on » Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:29 pm

kelford cams quoted me around 600 for a regrind of the cams in my 20v, mayb thats a good indication i dunno
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Postby Rollux » Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:56 pm

Allow another $600 for a decent port match and polish, plus headgasket and labour to remove and refit the head.
As for worth it, depends on how good the factory head is. The older the engine, normally the bigger the gains.
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Postby kingcorolla » Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:06 pm

600 a bit steep 4 just a port. i gotta place that wll port (not including manifold) your head for little over 100 for a simple porting job. Sometimes it worth going all out like i did, porting, plaining, polishing, new valves, valve surface refacing etc. Cost me about 700. sometimes its worth it, especially if its a 20 year old engine.
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Postby CAMB01 » Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:39 pm

Or you could get in the trade like me, and work with the guy who does porting for top race cars like Docile, he's currently doing my head, and balancing a set of conrods for me
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Postby strap-on » Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:50 pm

i thought all of speedtechs work was done by colliers motor engineers in levin?
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Re: could a N/A redtop do low 14s?

Postby Loudtoy » Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:13 pm

low_rider wrote:could a smallport 4age do low 14s without being turbo?
if so what would you have to do

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Yes it could but what would you have to do to it is like asking how long is a piece of string or how much money does bill gates have, it all depends on how far you want to go with the motor and how much you can afford to spend on it! Cams, porting, ecu, etc etc not in that particular order either
Btw even if you do all these mods no matter ow much you want it if you put a smallport 4age on the start line it won't go anywhere if it's all on it's lonesome 8O ! You could put it in something light like mmmboost suggested or something heavy and have over a seconds worth of difference just there!
So your call now dude :)
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Postby 92GTApex » Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:10 pm

Put it into a 600-700kg Lotus 7 or replica and you should have your times tumble to somewhere down there :wink:
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Postby summin » Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:37 pm

92GTApex wrote:Put it into a 600-700kg Lotus 7 or replica and you should have your times tumble to somewhere down there :wink:
(With the plus that you get a RWD setup for your 60' times)

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Try 550kg fraser clubman...or instead of 20v try a 3s-ge..heheh - should be almost good enough for 12-13sec 8O
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Re: could a N/A redtop do low 14s?

Postby Loudtoy » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:37 pm

low_rider wrote:could a smallport 4age do low 14s without being turbo?
if so what would you have to do

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Small port's are 16 valves dude not 20 but yes a esgte would go mint in a fraser
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Postby 92GTApex » Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:59 pm

550kg fraser clubman...


Can anyone say Caterham Superlight?
Around 450kg (possibly a little heavier with 4age)

yes a esgte would go mint in a fraser


YES, 3SGTE's go really well in lotus 7/fraser/replica's etc

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Re: could a N/A redtop do low 14s?

Postby low_rider » Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:31 pm

Loudtoy wrote:
low_rider wrote:could a smallport 4age do low 14s without being turbo?
if so what would you have to do

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Small port's are 16 valves dude not 20 but yes a esgte would go mint in a fraser


i know i never said they were
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Re: could a N/A redtop do low 14s?

Postby Loudtoy » Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:44 pm

low_rider wrote:
Loudtoy wrote:
low_rider wrote:could a smallport 4age do low 14s without being turbo?
if so what would you have to do

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Small port's are 16 valves dude not 20 but yes a esgte would go mint in a fraser


i know i never said they were


Whoops sorry don't know how that ended up like that i was meaning to quote summin when he said
Try 550kg fraser clubman...or instead of 20v try a 3s-ge..heheh - should be almost good enough for 12-13sec


Hehe :oops:

Oh yeah i could be wrong but didn't that starlet at the last honda/yota drags have a red top in it?? That was running low 14's
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Postby blackie » Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:12 pm

man, what sort of power are those 3sgte's making?
i thought it was around the 190kW mark.

but a guy from my work has a mr2 gts with one in it, and a full 3" exhaust off the turbo, its hell slow.

well not exactly slow, but its performance was poor as for a 2L turb in such a small car. this was backed up when i drove another guy from works Evo III.
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