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by **Tecnik** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:48 pm

Cheers for all the help, I've started ringing around, and so far $140 is the cheapest I can get, from SAS.

but scotts2hot has an idea I was thinking about, if you took springs out of another car [direct replacement] that were factory lower, and managed to do a straight swap into another car, that would meet all the requirements of a Warrant of Fitness, and I'd be sweet for insurance. Only problem is finding said pair of springs. Im not giving up, there must be a way to legit'ly lower my car without shelling out $400 or whatever for kingis. I wonder If i'd get a discount on certing when my dad cert's his 351 jeep transplant..

by **low_rider** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:06 pm

dont wory bro its legal if you get it done by pros and dont go lower than 100mm

Me, me, me, me..... · by **Just_Juzz** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:10 am

If your really worried, don't rush out and get the cheapest options. Just save some money, hold fire a bit and then get it done all nice and leagal with some kings...

Thats just my .0001c worth of input.

by **Me_19588** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:09 pm

R u sure on prices for kings go to super cheap they quoted me 280 for a full set, a bit better than my previous wuote of 440.

by **toyrota mota** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:47 pm

I only want to lower the back of my car about 1" or 2, would it be all good if i compressed them? Like is there anything wrong with compressed springs?

by **wde_bdy** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:56 pm

toyrota mota wrote:I only want to lower the back of my car about 1" or 2, would it be all good if i compressed them? Like is there anything wrong with compressed springs?

Maybe you should try reading the thread, compressed springs will cost you a lot more (due to needing cert) than just getting a set of Kings etc.

Callum

by **low_rider** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:03 pm

if u dont go below 100mm you dont need a cert :roll:

by **wde_bdy** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:34 pm

low_rider wrote:if u dont go below 100mm you dont need a cert

Read the link I posted, THERE IS NO EXEMPTION FOR GETTING IT DONE NO MATTER WHO DOES IT.

by **qik20v** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:44 pm

about replacing springs out of other cars...it is possiable to do but you need to find out cars that have the same diameter springs, and that the springs will sit safley in your platforms, and then also that they will actually lower your car.

my friend has a lexus is200 with honda prelude springs and it sits on the bumpstops while still being captive...however this is lower than 100mm so isnt legal, but if you can afford to have a 70000 dollar car on the bumpstops on 20's then you obviously dont care about fines.

if you compress your springs you need to get shorter shocks to get a cert as they analyse your car and ensure it has adequate suspension travel. standard shocks are sometimes pushing their limits on king springs

by **low_rider** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:50 pm

ok purple beasty scince you have done so much research on this matter you must be right..... :roll:

Website · by Al » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:20 am

low_rider wrote:ok purple beasty scince you have done so much research on this matter you must be right.....

Mate. He has provided a link from the LTSA. They make the rules. The shops offering the service dont.

by **low_rider** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:21 am

dude you can think whateva you like i dont give a $&#$% :roll:

Website · by Al » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:25 am

So can you please point me to where it says about doing the job professionally is all sweet?

by **low_rider** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:27 am

how bout you go talk to the ltsa in person and explain what oyu want to do and talk to places like snells and see what they say then when you find out your wrong go eat a dick like i know you want to

Website · by Al » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:31 am

low_rider wrote:go eat a dick like i know you want to

Another smartass comment like that and you will have your first warning.

by **Silent Knight** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:48 am

FFS do you people always have to rant on about endless bullshit.

LTSA makes the rules and they clearly state that you low_rider are wrong. Is it so damn hard to accept that you MIGHT have made a mistake?

Even if you do go in to the LTSA and ask them NOT one of the people that work there actually do know every single bloody rule set out for cars etc so they will end up looking at the same database that you can everyone else here has access to to find out the CRAP that you need to know.

OBVIOUSLY a suspension place is most probably going to give the go ahead because they are making the money. It's exactly the same when you go buy a bloody exhaust from pitstop and get it put on by them. They are going to say 'ah she'll be sweet through a WOF bud' but when you take your car through a WOF you get $&#$% cuz it's too loud. They DON'T care because they are making money.

by **wde_bdy** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:14 pm

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/publications/vir-manual/general/2-1a-steering-and-suspension-sys.pdf

13. Any other suspension component:
a) is insecure, or
b) is damaged, significantly corroded, distorted or cracked, or
c) shows signs of welding or heating after original manufacture, or

That listing shows what does NOT need certing. :roll:

Callum

by **RE20** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:24 pm

This may be of interest to someone, I went to a suspension shop today to get a quote on getting springs compressed I got quoted $90 a pair which is what I was expecting. Also, the springs are compressed to be progressive meaning they do not simply put the spring in a vice and heat them

So obviously it is a professional job and is done in house not outsourced to an engineer or anything.

In the rules it says they cannot be heated but there is a difference between heating springs and getting them properly done.

I will be doing this

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