exhaust ae111

[meanasmullet]

hay ive just been around 2day gettin sum prices 2 get cat bk taken out n running exhaust frm there 2 muffler tip... 2 1/4inch right threw 2 a 4inch tip... for a rage exhaust i got priced $540 and i wod jus like 2 kno f n e 1 got this on there ae111 and wot the think of it..
any help apreshiated

[Dr-X]

2 1/4inch right threw 2 a 4inch tip

Sounds a bit expensive to me, for a cat back system.

[CozmoNz]

dont get it

get a 2" from the headers back, make it as stright as possible, and have a normel muffler on the end. thtas all you need, will be slightly deeper in note, no big bling (i think you probably want this), but meh.

pends, u want power or looks? cant have both (dont say you can, you cant)

[meanasmullet]

im more after noise and looks than performance as i wouldnt really say my car is a performance car so yea

[kingcorolla]

hahahaha
sorry that just made me laugh.

im more after noise and looks than performance

sounds like something from nzhondas

hahahaha

[Dr-X]

hahahaha
sorry that just made me laugh.

im more after noise and looks than performance

sounds like something from nzhondas

hahahaha

I've gotta say, there's nothing wrong with going for looks over performance, as long as it's done right. And at least he's up front about it, that's much better than the average rice boy, who thinks his little rice rocket is hundreds of kilowatts thanks to bling bling lights, chrom mags and super huge exhaust tips.

[kingcorolla]

na dude, the quote wasent directed at him,
as soon as s saw those words put together I thought of rice, in general

im more after noise and looks than performance

we have all ben there..! my old car had a 3'' tip, [TE71] just for the sound. I was too poor for $&#$% all modification!

my 1st car had chrome hubcaps, when I was 15. I didnt even know what rice was.

i thought they were bling...

[ROBODISCO_20v]

Dude on my ae111 i've got a 2 1/4 inch mandrel bent exhaust with two small coby style (hot dog) mufflers in the middle the a small stainless muffler with a 3 1/2 inch tip. It is very loud & deep sounding. Make sure you spend the extra money on getting mandrel bends, Press bends are a waste of time,especially if you have sharp bends in the exhaust, they restrict the flow and give that horible tiny sound to the exhaust note.
2 1/4" may be to big for the standard 20v, I'd go with a two inch unless you have some serious mods done to the engine like cams etc. I've done the cams on mine so i need the extra 1/4" to help at the top end when they kick in.
If you're in AK Go to Pit Stop in Wairau Rd, Glenfield. Lance that works there is a toyota holic and will build you a very nice exhaust.

[Dr-X]

Dude on my ae111 i've got a 2 1/4 inch mandrel bent exhaust with two small coby style (hot dog) mufflers in the middle the a small stainless muffler with a 3 1/2 inch tip. It is very loud & deep sounding. Make sure you spend the extra money on getting mandrel bends, Press bends are a waste of time,especially if you have sharp bends in the exhaust, they restrict the flow and give that horible tiny sound to the exhaust note.

LMAO!

2 1/4" may be to big for the standard 20v, I'd go with a two inch unless you have some serious mods done to the engine like cams etc. I've done the cams on mine so i need the extra 1/4" to help at the top end when they kick in.

HAHAHA

OK, first, dude, dont listen to this guy. We like to call mandrel bends on a 1600cc motor 'wank factor'. Dont waste your money, press bends will do just fine.

Secondly, go for the 2 1/4. The price difference is marginal, so there's no point going smaller. I think you'll find your factory system is 2" or 2 1/4". I just can wait for this guy to reply telling me what a major performance difference it will make having that extra 'backpressure', trying to justify why his 'serious mods' require the larger exhaust.

LMAO just re reading his post I cant stop laughing. Yeah, you really need that extra breathing when your after market cams 'kick in' lol. I'd personally hope your cams were working the whole time!

Oh and just want to add, press bends do not give you that tinny sound. What a god damn load of shit. If anything, they're more likely to give you a deeper sound, as they dont flow quite as much.

[strap-on]

well i dunno if your full of shit dr-x but the standard on a 20v is 2 and a 1/4, i know cos alot of my exhaust is still factory,

if u want bling and noise ir eckon go for it man, the 3 inch tip will keep it quiet (well quieter), mines a 5 inch tip i think and that is huge, makes it waaaaaay too loud.

and it will give u a mild performance difference as well... as dr-x said the idea of "back pressure" end chucking extra mufflers in for backpressure is all shit. but where hes wrong ( and yes i am bringing up the past) is that the rite sized pipe is better, as it allows the gases to travel at the right velocity to bring the next lot out.


but just a wee useless bit of infor for ya there

[Dr-X]

Oh we could argue for hours on this

Show me some dyno results that prove a bigger exhaust causes lower performance, and I'll eat my hat. But until then, I disagree! *runs away laughing*

[ROBODISCO_20v]

well dr x you seem to be a know it all.
Whats the point of getting a 2 1/4 press bent exhaust? Any tight bends will reduce the internal diameter of the exhaust pipe, thus reducing flow and creating turbulance. What a waste of time that is. Sure it might make more noise but it wont help make anymore power. I had a press bent system on my AE92 FXGT and it did just that, more noise & no noticable increase in power.
Some people in the industry have said that press bends under 30 degrees wont affect the flow.
Most FWD toyotas have 90 degree bends where the go around the fuel tank & spare tyre well, so you will have to use a mandrel bend it this situation, if you dont want to dramatically reduce the pipes internal diameter.
As for the stupid comment about my cams working all the time, you obiously have never owen/driven a car with performance cams. The change the duration & lift of the inlet & exhaust, there is obiously going to be more air/fuel going in as well as more exhaust coming out, so a larger exhaust is needed for the extra air flow. You obiously are an idoit.
When my cams come on song at 6000rpm your press bent exhaust would reduce power by causing to much restriction/turbulance.
If your going to modify a car do it right the first time or else you might as well just drive an 1985 honda prelude with neons and a shopping trolley wing like DR X.

[Dr-X]

This guy makes me laugh. What an idiot. I'm not even going to dignify his comments witha rebutle. Anyone who knows the first thing about cars knows what I'm talking about.

[strap-on]

dr-x......

YOU are a FUKING .... MORON


(anyone who visits newgrounds should get this)

you dont know what ur on about and then u accuse othe rpeople of the same thing, no1 should listen to this guy

[Dr-X]

dr-x......

YOU are a FUKING .... MORON


(anyone who visits newgrounds should get this)

you dont know what ur on about and then u accuse othe rpeople of the same thing, no1 should listen to this guy

Somehow, I think I've had more experience and study in egine theory than you, and a lot more pratical experience to back it up.

[Al]

ANYWAY

$540 seems like quite a bit. Is that a off the shelf system that they have instock?

Dont know if you guys have a tyco in Nelly but we do here in chch and automotive flexis are around $50 for a 3" one, so should be no more than $45 for a 2-1/4". All fwds and MRs need one.

I can also get you a muffler for a pretty sharp deal as well $150 or less for a shiny bling stainless can

Then all you need to do is get the guys to fit it up for ya, and I'd prolly reccomend you chuck a small resonator in it to keep the noise level down while still giving it the sound you are after. You dont need mandrel bends if you are only keen on it sounding cool, press bends will do fine in your situation

Al

[ROBODISCO_20v]

Somehow, I think I've had more experience and study in egine theory than you, and a lot more pratical experience to back it up.

Funny way of showing it, by having no clue at all.

Did a little research into the pricing of manderal bends, turns out they're cheaper than i'd thought. You would have to be stupid/dr x not to use them at these prices. 2 1/4" (57mm) 90 degree manderal bent aluminium coated mild steel retails for $23 at repco. For that you get 175mm of steel either side of the bend. Not bad. Makes you wonder why DR X would use a press bend over one of these Maybe because he's a Fukwit