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Postby phatman3801 » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:27 pm

hey one of the studs on my ae111 levin is fuct and i need to replace it coz i htink its a bit dodget only having 3 studs holding the wheel on..im jst woundering how u go about removing and putting a new stud in?
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Postby Spannergal » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:31 pm

more details on how its f***ed might help people to know what to suggest.
for example stuffed threads could be fixed differently to a snapped stud
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Postby phatman3801 » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:35 pm

well i while ago my car went on2 a suspention shop and while they had the wheels off they sed the end of that trad was fuct so they cut it off and that stud was shorter and seemed to be ok...but now after having th wheels off recently it wnt go tight like it goes tight then losse again like its treaded and ive tryed differnt nuts so its not the nuts so im guessing i need a new stud there but dnt no if id be able to change it or not?
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Postby Spannergal » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:39 pm

well if they hadn't cut the end of the stud off things would be easier. could use a die to rethread the stud, but since it's already been cut better to replace it. you'll need to use a stud remover. but before you remove it you'll want to know whether you can replace coz having a stuffed stud in its place is better than no stud :)
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Postby MrOizo » Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:01 pm

i think to do this you 'll need to take the hub out and all that...

i have a $&#$% stud on the supra and will be replacing when i do the wheel bearing on that side...

i guess i can wait as i have 4 out of 5 holding that wheel on and not 3 out of 4

toyota will be able to sort you out tho...
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Postby GT4 20 » Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:56 pm

Aren't wheel studs a 'push fit' into the wheel flange (certainly are on my Rover)? Being splined at the end keeps them securely in place. Just bash the old stud out with a big hammer and push the new one in. Depending on teh hub set-up will depend on if there is enogh room behind to get the old stud out and the new one in. Sometimes, the hub needs to be pulled apart.

The suspension shop was pretty damb dumb to cut the stud short. I'm pretty sure that doing something like that would get you to fail a WoF if they discovered it - and rightly so. I'd go back to them and kick up a real fuss and make them change if FOC. If they won't threaten to go to Fair Go as I'm sure they wold be VERY interested in the story as it has a HUGE bearing on safety.
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Postby Spannergal » Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:18 pm

what i don't get is why they cut it when they said the thread was f***ed instead of changing it 8O
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Postby phatman3801 » Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:04 pm

ok help im not sure wot 2 do lol..i dnt hava lot of money 2 spend so dse ne 1 no if its possble 2 jst put in a new stud easly??
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Postby Ae92typeX » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:09 pm

I dont know for sure on your model (someone here must be able to confirm), but on the majority of cars I done it too, its just as gt4 20 says, buy a new one (cheep as), knock out the old one and tap in the new one. This will involve taking the hub off.
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Postby phatman3801 » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:43 pm

how bouts do u take the hub off? and wnt the disc be in the way??
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Postby GT4 20 » Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:04 am

Go back to the suspension shop who did the work and make them sort it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They were in the wrong in the first place - what they did was irresponsible and potentially dangerous. Why should you have to pay to fix their f*** up? :roll:
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Postby phatman3801 » Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:29 am

yea ill give it a go but i dnt no how well it will go coz the reason the cut the end off coz the tred was fuked on it and also they did it quite awhile ago and only causing probelms now coz i took my wheels off
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Postby Spannergal » Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:09 pm

if they'd done there job properly they would have known that cutting the stud would cause problems - and would have replaced it.
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Postby CozmoNz » Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:38 pm

removing hub:

unbolt wheel, remove wheel
unbolt the 2 bolts on the caliper that connects it to the base of the suspension, or axle, whichever, theres only 2, cant really mistake them.

remove caliper and hang with wire from spring, no letting the hoses crack :).

remove the cap from the top of the disc if its there (large black cap), just wigle it and it will remove, try to pull the disc, 99% of the time it wont pull, so get a 8mm bolt and wind it into the thread thats there.

use say a 10mm spanner (or whatever fits the 8mm bolt), and wind it in unitl the disc will be pulled of. pretty easy really.

next, your left with the hub, and the bearing etc, there will be 2 large holes through the hub itself, stick say a single hex 14mm (i think its 14), around the hole, chuck through an extension and a farking large bar attached to it, undo all 4.

once you have taken all 4 out, chances are it also wont pull off. now to be honest with you i have no clue how ull get this off, but ive got a special tool, you bolt it up to the hub, and its got a pull thing, you just pull it, and it smacks the back handle, pulling the hub its bolted to with it.

basically, pull the sucker off, and your left with a hub, and wheel bearing, replace the bearing if you want as well, meh, if your rich and all lol, but theres your hub, simple put it in a vice (GENTLE), smack on top of the thread itself, it will pop through, get your new stud, tap it through (as said), and when you bolt the wheel back on, make sure you do it tight enough to pull that stud as far through as it can.

once the stud is on, bolt everything back on in the reverse order :), use lots of crc remember :D, stuck bolts are bad bolts.
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Postby GT4 20 » Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:12 pm

CozmoNz wrote:use lots of crc remember :D, stuck bolts are bad bolts.


Silly question, but do you mean use the crc on the bolts etc when putting everything back together again?
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Postby Lloyd » Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:35 pm

I know this thread is a few weeks old but I snapped a stud off on the Levin the other day and the way you're explaining it makes it a lot more complicated than it needs to be.

Remove wheel, remove caliper setup (2 bolts), turn the disc around so there is a gap behind the broken/damaged stud and smack it with a hammer. There is your stud out.

For putting a new one in just poke it through the hole the right way and get a big nut or whatever as a spacer and just put a wheel nut on to pull it through.
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