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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:16 pm

the toyota one is being developed by some very very smart ppl... it will be good :D
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Postby Psycho_Dad » Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:24 pm

due to the differences with the 3sgte and the BEAMS engine, id slap a 3sgte in and sell the beams engine... that way a turbo application is being aplied to a turbo applicated engine... much better than trying to work on a nonturbo engine whos head is developed by yamaha... for n/a

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Postby Al » Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:29 pm

I have to disagree. turbo tezzas car pulls 160kw @ wheels on 10psi on a piddly td04l turbo, id like to see even a gen3 3sgte pull 160kw @ wheels on 10psi with the ct20b, very unlikely.
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Postby vvega » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:06 pm

Psycho_Dad wrote:due to the differences with the 3sgte and the BEAMS engine, id slap a 3sgte in and sell the beams engine... that way a turbo application is being aplied to a turbo applicated engine... much better than trying to work on a nonturbo engine whos head is developed by yamaha... for n/a

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yeah and you get a engine that was desined to be on a slant
there is nothign wrong with the beams as a base for a turbo enigine

nothing wrong with useing n/a heads on turbo ethier


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Postby Lunchie » Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:08 pm

mmmm turbo altezza... fap fap fap


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Postby rettun » Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:33 pm

I was reading an artical on a turbo tezza a while back in a fast fours mag i think(old one)

someone put a supra engine into it, IS300 rear diff/axels few other mods and was around 330kw @ the wheels...

i'd cream over that :> and common, who doesnt love the supra engine :D
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:02 am

yamaha heads are damn good!

a good flowing n/a head will work well on a turbo.

even if you change all the internals the extra hassle of making a slanted 3sgte fit isnt worth it
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Postby Rollux » Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:19 am

Why not just get a 3SGTE short block, bolt on the Yamaha head and go from there? You then have the lower compression, the stronger bottom end, and the best head complete with VVTIL?
That's what I'd be doing

PS Al, when you gonna put Corey's old head on your MR2?
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Postby L8TR » Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:59 am

The turbo is estimated to take it from 110 bhp
to approx 350-400 bhp with out touching the insides
which if they decide it may get forged etc,..
depending on what they intend it to do,
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Postby Leon » Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:22 pm

L8TR wrote:The turbo is estimated to take it from 110 bhp
to approx 350-400 bhp with out touching the insides
which if they decide it may get forged etc,..
depending on what they intend it to do,


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Postby anthonym » Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:50 pm

L8TR wrote:The turbo is estimated to take it from 110 bhp
to approx 350-400 bhp with out touching the insides

Perhaps the intended market for this is Mars (and if so I guess you're reaching your target audience, but that's another thread :D) but here on Earth this is physically impossible to achieve in a manner that would a:/ be reliable b:/ achievable on pump gas c:/ be drivable. In fact above comments are so naive I suspect you may be a troll. I mean have you even looked inside an Altezza 3SGE? There's no way the rods could reliably cope with that sort of power output.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:53 pm

i can assure you guys it will be done properly, and will be very impressive, the brains working on it are VERY VERY good, and know toyotas VERY VERY well 8)
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Postby anthonym » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:22 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:i can assure you guys it will be done properly, and will be very impressive, the brains working on it are VERY VERY good, and know toyotas VERY VERY well 8)

AFAIK, the very best brains in NZ when it comes to Toyota engines are totally focused on getting the engines ready for the Toyota Racing Series.
Regardless, if this Altezza project is to be done properly then the kits will not be affordable and whoever is driving this project is not using their brain. Altezzas are rapidly heading down toward the boy racer end of the market, a group who have proven repeatedly they will not spend coin on a well engineered solution when a bodge will do. The more mature market that understands the value of the kit won't be buying Altezzas as they don't want to be associated with boy racers. Well that's my take on it anyway :D.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:30 pm

AFAIK, the very best brains in NZ when it comes to Toyota engines are totally focused on getting the engines ready for the Toyota Racing Series.


maybe its the same ppl :wink:


dont be so negative!!!
we'll just have to see what happens really
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Postby matt dunn » Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:30 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:
AFAIK, the very best brains in NZ when it comes to Toyota engines are totally focused on getting the engines ready for the Toyota Racing Series.


maybe its the same ppl :wink:


dont be so negative!!!
we'll just have to see what happens really



Isn't there a bit about it in the new NZPC mag where it say's that it is the smae people building the Altezza that are doing the engines for the Formula toyota?
And it's the same guy that ran the Altezza's in the touring car class when they kicked ass.

But in saying that, if they are making a TRD turbo kit it will be,
A/ a well designed and through kit,
B/ well over the price range of people that buy altezza's nowdays.

When we had our Altezza a few years back they were around $45k.
Now you can buy from a yard a 6 speed with the good 4 cyl motor for $18k.

They will become the DX corolla of the 21st century.


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Postby Al » Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:03 pm

So much for the Toyota developed turbo kit.

Toyota NZ are using Blitz parts for their project Altezza :lol:
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Postby Tezza » Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:22 am

:o Well i own one and i can tell ou if i was going to spend that sort of money it wouldn't be on a turbo or a six. V8 lexus :!:

Sorry Matt i haven't seen a Alezzta going for $18 yet at the moment the prices are actually rising
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Postby matt dunn » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:57 pm

Tezza wrote::o Well i own one and i can tell ou if i was going to spend that sort of money it wouldn't be on a turbo or a six. V8 lexus :!:

Sorry Matt i haven't seen a Alezzta going for $18 yet at the moment the prices are actually rising


I have down here, 4 cyl, 6 speed, 18K, almost made me want to trade in.....

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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:12 pm

altezza prices raising? where??

their getting cheaper all the time! we retail em on the yard for between 20-24 so finding one for 18 shouldnt be hard

al: blitz parts dont mean a full blitz kit. ill see first hand in a few weeks anyway, ill take pics 8)
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