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Trumpet setup for Blacktop AE111

Postby Flyboy » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:09 pm

Im looking into the idea of 4 trumpets on the end of the trottle bodies.. With a sock over the top...

Will a box where the intake manifold is and a bonnet scoop will feed it enough air? Or will i need more?
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Postby strap-on » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:30 pm

its worth noting that that box has been specifically designed by someone smarter than us for use with those trumpets, if you want longer straighter ones, cut a hole in your bonnet and stick them out with some filters on them

at the moment those trumpets are tuned for around 5-6 thousand rpm ( i cant quite remember) and with out them the car is tuned for apx ( i dodnt quite measure stuff accuratly) 12,000 rpm, so its all about where u want the power coming in
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:47 pm

hmmmm maybe we shoudl faq this....


if your engine is stock, or near to it playing with the trumpets will only DECREASE perfromance. unless you are very very smart, and in which case you wouldnt be asking questions....
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Postby CozmoNz » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:51 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:hmmmm maybe we shoudl faq this....


if your engine is stock, or near to it playing with the trumpets will only DECREASE perfromance. unless you are very very smart, and in which case you wouldnt be asking questions....


you would be working for toyota, like you!
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Postby Flyboy » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:44 pm

I AM going to do the cams, and ECU... Oh and a big bottle...
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:48 pm

haha ok

then what you need to do is decide to what rev range you wanna tune the trumpets.... experimentaion may be needed. or at least some clever maths.

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and i guess you coudl try things like port tuning, intake trumpets etc
stick those in, read away... and see if you can prevent ya self getting confused!
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Postby Flyboy » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:55 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:
then what you need to do is decide to what rev range you wanna tune the trumpets.... experimentaion may be needed. or at least some clever maths.

google:
heimholtz (saved ya from another redmist :wink: )
and i guess you coudl try things like port tuning, intake trumpets etc
stick those in, read away... and see if you can prevent ya self getting confused!


Looks like i have a small bit of reading to do!!!! :lol: After i find if any works been done internally on the car....
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Postby Distrb » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:21 pm

and once you've removed your obviously hopeless factory intake setup..... give it to meeeeeee :lol:
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Postby Flyboy » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:23 pm

Distrb wrote:and once you've removed your obviously hopeless factory intake setup..... give it to meeeeeee :lol:


So long as you can wait a couple of years!!!!
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Postby RedMist » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:34 pm

I'm feeling very obsolete.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:36 pm

haha you feel proud that you have educated some ppl :D
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Postby Flyboy » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:03 pm

RedMist wrote:I'm feeling very obsolete.


Whys that dude?
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Postby spencer » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:13 pm

Flyboy wrote:Whys that dude?


do a search on all the topics about removing intake trumpets and helmholtz. You'll find it comes up every six weeks, redmist tells them whats up but no-one seems to listen
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Postby strap-on » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:36 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:haha you feel proud that you have educated some ppl :D


he certainly educated me
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Postby neo » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:11 pm

on a sidenote, anyone know where in NZ i can get a ram-tubes / trumpets / bell mouth for a 28/36 webber? Pionner dont do em for the mighty german piece of engineering =)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:15 pm

webers are italian!!

look in the back of speed sport magizine, or classic cars. theres a coupla places that do them
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Postby RedMist » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:21 pm

got20v? wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:haha you feel proud that you have educated some ppl :D


he certainly educated me


I'm blushing.

In all honesty I hope you educated yourself in regards to Helmholtz. Its a complex subject and I only ever touch on the very tip of reversion pulse tuning.
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